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Then today I said the models of wheels that would interest me from these companies would be more than I'm willing to spend. That does not mean I would not pick up a second hand set and redo them to my liking. There are plenty of forged wheels out there made from the same raw materials as these companies that do not charge as much. |
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03-26-2012, 12:23 AM | #354 | |
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^ Just because ONE of adv.1 wheels cracked doesn't mean they ALL are bad wheels. I'm sure they've sold plenty and if there was a huge problem everyone would have heard about it by now. Just because some ferrari's catch on fire doesn't mean its a POS. or if your e46 subframe rips out doesn't mean you'll never buy another bmw again
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Yeah, you wouldn't know and I wouldn't know because we certainly never had our lives jeopardized by a set of $10k wheels at freeway speed. Also, it's not about what kind of offer is been put on the table, it is all about moral of business here. Knowingly manufacture and sold product with defect and later trying to buy its way out of the problem by delaying reply, blaming consumers show that this company DOES NOT deserve any sort of "reputation" that you mentioned. If you are happy with a set of replacement or refund after you almost lost your life and possibly your loved ones. That's beyond me.
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This is exactly the bs I'm talking about your saying they "knowingly manufactured" defective product obviously this was not the case but that doesn't stop you from making baseless accusations. |
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03-26-2012, 09:14 AM | #358 |
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didn't really need to know! they have done a lot of explaining on the forum already
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you "almost lose your life and possibly your loved ones" everytime you get in the car no? or are you telling me the only part that could possibly fail on the car in question was the "badly" made wheels? honestly? if you care so much about your life and your families life you don't put 22" wheels on a cayenne especially when no such option exists on a factory order
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i think this is pretty much libel right here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel
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I read the whole thread because I own the wheels and I was concerned. Again, count the number of broken Adv.1 you've ever seen.
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ADV.1 Testing Procedures and documentation
Due to the recent rumors circulating the internet we felt it was necessary to explain our testing, engineering, and warranty procedures for those interested. Testing Procedures: All of our forgings are initially engineered around a certain range of vehicle fitments / load ratings. Normally we design the forging die itself around a 2000lb. per corner load rating umbrella. This means that so long as all wheels using this forging are engineered around the tested / certified material thickness minimums based on the test certification, no further testing is required unless an order violates these guidelines for any reason. To give you an example of this, see diagram below. For any wheels which do in fact contain material in some areas which is less than the tested / certified guideline minimums, we then use our in house xxx testing equipment. An example of this would be on wheels like our new SL series where they are engineered for the exact vehicle the order is intended for thus the material thickness tolerances may be too conservative for the subject vehicle in question. For example, if we're engineering a set of SL's for an R8 like the schematic below illustrates, the load rating of the vehicle is much less and the necessary material needed for safe use on this vehicle may be much less than the originally tested 2000lb / corner rating. With this being said, we use FEA analysis software to effectively determine the necessary material needed for this car. Once finalized, a physical test wheel is made for destruction testing on our radial and fatigue testing equipment which we've obtained for this exact purpose. Based on the resulting data of the test we then are able to confirm or deny the file which leads to either production of the wheel. revisions to engineering and re-testing, or additional reduction of material in order to further tweak the file for maximum weight reduction. Testing procedures of the initial forging / umbrella certification is done by a company called STL or Standard Testing Labs. This is a US based, independent testing facility which provides multiple types of testing procedures. For each individual test subject a certification outlining the results and details is provided, see examples below which we have on file for all ADV.1 Forgings used. Our in house radial cornering / fatigue testing equipment also provides documentation on each subject tested, an example of such is shown below: In regards to TUV Testing, as many know is something we've been working diligently towards with our German Partners, ATT-Tec in Berlin, is a long process and despite what many believe is actually a never ending requirement needed for every single size, offset, application, PCD, etc. The process is very expensive and time consuming however is the only way to provide customers in Germany with aftermarket products of any type. Below is a detailed explanation written recently by Jordan Swerdloff on this subject: "TUV requires individual testing and certification documents for every single wheel style, in each size, for each application so there's still a long road ahead of us in order to be able to offer all styles to a wide range of vehicles. So far we officially have our ADV5.1 monoblock approved in 20x8.5+18 / 20x11+20 for BMW e92 M3. Each additional certification will only require roughly a week for testing / approval now that the TUV recognizes the company as an approved manufacturer which will soon be added to their database once the paperwork is complete, the majority of the documentation and testing is not needed for each additional certification. Current plans for the remainder of 2012 will include 18 more certifications, 3 styles in both 1 piece and 3 piece track spec configurations, offered to 3 different vehicle platforms. Although there is still a long way to go, this is a huge step in the process of opening the door to Germany. Currently the selection of wheels able to be sold is very limited and the only option enthusiasts have is to either choose from the limited selection of approved brands, mostly cast wheels or to risk fines and even the loss of their vehicles by driving without TUV certified products on their car. Now, through the efforts of our Exclusive German Distributors ATT-Tec, the German market will finally be able to enjoy our wheels without having to worry about the consequences of driving without approved aftermarket components on their vehicles." ADV.1 Materials / Suppliers 3 Piece center disc forgings: Material: 6061 T6 Heat Treated Forged Aluminum Suppliers: ASA Centerline 1 Piece monoblock forgings: Material: 6061 T6 Heat Treated Forged Aluminum Suppliers: ASA 3 Piece rim halves / excluding 21/22 inch Standard reverse parts (step lip): Material: 5051 Spun Forged Aluminum / 6061 T6 Heat Treated Forged Aluminum Suppliers: ARS Triangle 3 Piece 21/22 inch Standard reverse parts (step lip) rim halves: Material: 6061 T6 Heat Treated Forged Aluminum Suppliers: Triangle Machining: Performed: In house / ADV.1 Dedicated portion of MHT Machining Production Facility Engineering / Programming: Performed: In house / ADV.1 Staff |
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Wow really you just join the party? Amazing!!! I think this is epic fail. |
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Just to address why Dub.1 looks similar... we were contracted to design their wheel line for them. But other than that we are not affiliated with any of their operations.
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03-26-2012, 11:32 PM | #370 |
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They only drop the cars a little more than they are already dropped. That's it. I honestly don't see anything wrong with that. It's not like they photoshop 6 inch lips on the wheels or make the spokes thinner.
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your missing the point and i see your rocking their wheels so I'm not gonna hate, you got to defend your investment and I understand. What is wrong with it, is they make their offset and fitments look much more aggressive than they really are. And since they already have a track record, that does not fly well with me.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665859 if adv edited those pics, wheels would look flush and car would be dumped. but their not and we can clearly see their rims are not nearly as aggressive as advertised. i don't mean to piss any of you fan boys off so i'll let it be at that take it how u want to. now check out these adv edited images; http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566635 the e90 is dumped in the pictures, in fact the third picture is ridiculous.. go to page 2 and watch the video of the car, the car is atleast an inch and half higher all around, and they even went as far as to edit out the orange reflectors.. Not like that matters but one of the most important determinants in buying a wheel for me is fitment aside from quality. |
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Also, to add to that, we have multiple photographers across the world that do their own editing. We almost never touch what they send to us other than to slap the logos on them. |
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Those Dub.1 wheels look spot on ADV.1 wheels. Make sense, ADV says they designed the wheels.
But what really makes them different from ADV wheels? They were designed by ADV, built in same MHT facilities in SoCal. They are just marketed under a different brand. So what is MHT charging for Dub.1 wheels? |
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Please? Do people realize that their credibility goes out the window when they can't construct a decent sentence using proper punctuation and when they don't even know the difference between "your and you're"? I'll expect some smart-ass answer about the "grammar police", but seriously, with google now especially, there is no excuse. |
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