My E90 M3 Dedicated Track build (with pix!)

[dogbone]

Found out about an interesting product today that I wanted to share:

Was talking to Steve at EAS about my fire extinguisher. It's several years old now, and I figure I need to refresh or update it or something. He mentioned there's something out there that is cool: Element Fire Extinguishers.

It's around the size of a road flare, but even the small version puts out 5x the discharge time when compared to a traditional fire extinguisher. So, I bought one online. Really curious to see what it's like.

From their website:


Anyway, if you ever thought having a fire extinguisher was too big and too much hassles, this product may change your mind.

You can check it out here: Element Fire Extinguishers

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by dogbone

Found out about an interesting product today that I wanted to share:

Was talking to Steve at EAS about my fire extinguisher. It's several years old now, and I figure I need to refresh or update it or something. He mentioned there's something out there that is cool: Element Fire Extinguishers.

It's around the size of a road flare, but even the small version puts out 5x the discharge time when compared to a traditional fire extinguisher. So, I bought one online. Really curious to see what it's like.

From their website:

Anyway, if you ever thought having a fire extinguisher was too big and too much hassles, this product may change your mind.

You can check it out here: Element Fire Extinguishers

Oh yeah, I've had one of those in each car a while.
I had to use one once to exhaust an out of control barbeque... which conveniently sits a few feet from a spare propane tank and 12 gallons of fuel. It works well

[Redd]

Originally Posted by dogbone

Found out about an interesting product today that I wanted to share:

Was talking to Steve at EAS about my fire extinguisher. It's several years old now, and I figure I need to refresh or update it or something. He mentioned there's something out there that is cool: Element Fire Extinguishers.

It's around the size of a road flare, but even the small version puts out 5x the discharge time when compared to a traditional fire extinguisher. So, I bought one online. Really curious to see what it's like.

From their website:


Anyway, if you ever thought having a fire extinguisher was too big and too much hassles, this product may change your mind.

You can check it out here: Element Fire Extinguishers

Yes saw this product. Seems perfect for home use. Once you start it, it keeps going until its finished (which is a very long time). And it leaves no residue/mess unlike dry powder. But my concern for car use is that you can't stop it midway and wait to see if a fire reignites or pops up somewhere else. And the gas may not prevent reignition like a layer of dry powder does. But it's definitely better than no extinguisher and much smaller/lighter than a dry powder extinguisher with much more runtime.

[rhyary]

>> powder. But my concern for car use is that you can't stop it midway and wait to see if a fire reignites or pops up somewhere else. And the gas may not prevent reignition like a layer of dry powder does.


Two units can solve that problem.

[StripclubDJ]

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[Redd]

Damn that's a really clean install. Can't get that with a big extinguisher.

[StripclubDJ]

Originally Posted by Redd

Damn that's a really clean install. Can't get that with a big extinguisher.

Thanks bro

[dogbone]

Glad you guys have had good experiences with this extinguisher.

Cool install TJ!

[StripclubDJ]

Originally Posted by dogbone

Glad you guys have had good experiences with this extinguisher.

Cool install TJ!

The goal is to never have any experience with any fire suppression system 😂

[DRLane]

Originally Posted by dogbone

Found out about an interesting product today that I wanted to share:

Was talking to Steve at EAS about my fire extinguisher. It's several years old now, and I figure I need to refresh or update it or something. He mentioned there's something out there that is cool: Element Fire Extinguishers.

It's around the size of a road flare, but even the small version puts out 5x the discharge time when compared to a traditional fire extinguisher. So, I bought one online. Really curious to see what it's like.

From their website:
[IMG]http://www.epicscore.com/online/Element-Fire-Ext.jpg[/IMG]

Anyway, if you ever thought having a fire extinguisher was too big and too much hassles, this product may change your mind.

You can check it out here: Element Fire Extinguishers

Would this be standalone or complementary to a proper fire suppression system?

[dogbone]

Originally Posted by DRLane

Would this be standalone or complementary to a proper fire suppression system?

My current plan is just to run this for the time being. If I had a full fire suppression system, I could still see the benefit of something like this given how small it is. Could be handy for situations outside the car, even helping someone else.

[leftfootbr8king]

Mount up like ten elements around the car and rig up a daisy chained striker system. #Enginuty

[DRLane]

Originally Posted by dogbone

My current plan is just to run this for the time being. If I had a full fire suppression system, I could still see the benefit of something like this given how small it is. Could be handy for situations outside the car, even helping someone else.

Yeah, seems like something to have in every car given size and simplicity. Neat!

[dogbone]

Originally Posted by DRLane

Yeah, seems like something to have in every car given size and simplicity. Neat!

And not that expensive!

[derbo]

it's a pretty cool setup

This is a good review of it with wind where the caveat with the wind blowing away the gas.

herbiesnerd
2 months ago (edited)
I’ve seen a couple other demo videos of this, and without wind present, it was just as quick as a small dry chem ABC extinguisher.

This video showed an obvious flaw, because the Element extinguishing agent is essentially a gas, wind is capable of blowing away the gas.

The captain had to lean over the flammable liquid, which nobody should ever do, even a firefighter wearing full PPE.

All that being said, the small Element has 50 seconds of extinguishing agent discharge time, compared to about 15 seconds for a dry chem. 50 seconds is more than enough time to overcome a light wind.

With heavy winds, it’s hard to put out anything, even with a fire hose.

I literally just learned about this extinguisher about 30 minutes ago. I’m buying 4 of them today, for all the cars at home.

I’m a retired firefighter, and I’m a pain in the ass pragmatic sceptic for anything new. Prove it to me, and after my initial resistance to change, I’m an advocate.

A very cool package.

[DRLane]

Originally Posted by derbo

it's a pretty cool setup

This is a good review of it with wind where the caveat with the wind blowing away the gas.

A very cool package.

I'm not fireman, but that wasn't a confidence inspiring video. Seems like a rad solution for something small at home that's already contained.

But for a race car? Suppression is to give you time to get out not save the car. This doesn't seem like it could do either.

[derbo]

Originally Posted by DRLane

I'm not fireman, but that wasn't a confidence inspiring video. Seems like a rad solution for something small at home that's already contained.

But for a race car? Suppression is to give you time to get out not save the car. This doesn't seem like it could do either.

With 50 seconds of gas, I think it can in a contained area like a cockpit.

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by DRLane

I'm not fireman, but that wasn't a confidence inspiring video. Seems like a rad solution for something small at home that's already contained.

But for a race car? Suppression is to give you time to get out not save the car. This doesn't seem like it could do either.

The traditional one def looked better to my eyes haha.

[DRLane]

Originally Posted by derbo

With 50 seconds of gas, I think it can in a contained area like a cockpit.

Clearly no worse and arguably better than a hand held (which is what's in my car), but idk.

High quality Novec system is $800 - $1400. Doesn't weigh much and could actually save your life. What if you're unconscious? Or broke your thumbs on the steering wheel, or something else prevents you from striking the striker?

I know it means nothing, but I'm now changing my mind. I think proper suppression is the right choice.

[derbo]

Originally Posted by DRLane

Clearly no worse and arguably better than a hand held (which is what's in my car), but idk.

High quality Novec system is $800 - $1400. Doesn't weigh much and could actually save your life. What if you're unconscious? Or broke your thumbs on the steering wheel, or something else prevents you from striking the striker?

I know it means nothing, but I'm now changing my mind. I think proper suppression is the right choice.

If storage is an issue I can see this being a solution. It's not the best solution but it's better than nothing? 🤷🏻*♂️

It seems like a nice solution for a street car to carry though.

[dogbone]

Originally Posted by DRLane

Clearly no worse and arguably better than a hand held (which is what's in my car), but idk.

High quality Novec system is $800 - $1400. Doesn't weigh much and could actually save your life. What if you're unconscious? Or broke your thumbs on the steering wheel, or something else prevents you from striking the striker?

I know it means nothing, but I'm now changing my mind. I think proper suppression is the right choice.

Just to clarify, I’m not thinking this is a replacement for a full fire suppression system. But I do think it’s a viable alternative to a classic fire extinguisher which is all I’ve ever had in the car.

[derbo]

Originally Posted by dogbone

Just to clarify, I’m not thinking this is a replacement for a full fire suppression system. But I do think it’s a viable alternative to a classic fire extinguisher which is all I’ve ever had in the car.

I think its a great alternative and can be equivalent to that.