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The C5 Z will destroy the M3[/QUOTE] If you got a stock C5Z06, bring it. You wouldn't be the first one I've beat in my stock E92 DCT M3. You are smoking the good stuff if you think a C5 Z06 will destroy an E92 M3. Last edited by amerlemans; 02-21-2013 at 07:12 PM.. |
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I agree that the c5z would destroy an m3 on track, straights, and under the sheets but that's in the hands of a good driver, otherwise the c5z is much harder to drive to the limits then the m3, which is what makes the m3 so appealing. And your statement about beating c5z has too many variables. I've passed many c6z's and a 458 in my z4m. Certainly doesn't mean the z4m is quicker than those stated cars.
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Lastly..........the c5z is one butt ugly ass car Now where is your proof that a c5Z "DESTROYS" an E92 M3? Last edited by amerlemans; 02-21-2013 at 08:31 PM.. |
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I love internet forum racing ... who cares guys.. get what is fun for you.. we're not winning any prizes at the track for the .5 second... for me, my m3 is the best fun i've ever had .. at the track.. and on the street..
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Speaking of GTFO -- go look at your post history. Your sole purpose for being here is carry Corvette's water. Pssst, you're on an M3 forum dummy. You don't offer jack sh!t. For Christsake all you get done doing is giving this stupid fcuking sign after anyone that posts a positive comment about that plastic fantastic that you adore. I'm not a Vette hater (save for the piss poor build quality). I've owned a C6Z06 and C6 Grand Sport. They are great performing cars (the C6 versions). The C5Z06 IS NOT a faster car than the M3. I'm done with you on this.....take your ass over to Corvette Forum with your nonsense. |
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02-21-2013, 09:39 PM | #276 |
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Ok, if we must mag race...
Ringtimes E92 m3 8:05 C5 z06 7:56 M3 gts dct 7:48 It took 300 less pounds, 6 piston brakes, Corsa r comps, aero, chassis stiffening, fully adjustable suspension, 0.4l displacement bump, and the magical m-dct tranny to cover 17 seconds on the nurburgrung. And how much of the time saved would you like to credit to the m-dct? Then again, if you haven't been on track don't answer that....
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http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/b...te_c5_z06.html
On top of my empiricle evidence, read it and weep. The M3 is NOT the DCT and the c5Z06 is a 2003. Last edited by amerlemans; 02-21-2013 at 09:47 PM.. |
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Apparently I was wrong to say that the c5z would destroy the m3 in every performance category. Ill reword and say that it has the edge. Btw cd has clocked a 0-150 in 24.1 for the 02+ c5z. And the 1:30 streets of willow time had bad tires by there own admission.
However once you start even entry level mods(tires, brakes, intake) the c5z will destroy mod for mod m3's But who cares since the op is not looking at getting a c5z
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Manual C5Z06 is faster than DCT E92, if his buddy cant drive...we cant account for that
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I feel I would be faster around the track in a dct but also know I am faster than others who have dct. If I had to do over I still don't think I would switch trannys.
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So why spend $75k on an M3 when for $15k you can buy a Honda Civic, put $15k worth of mods into it, and it will rape an M3 all day long?
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as a guy whose owned a C5Z and C6Z and has some seat time in a couple e92M's, and presently owns a 335i (wife's) and 330ci DD... my two cents: C6Z will flat out wipe the floor with an e92M from a performance perspective. any performance perspective. it's just not close at all. in a straight line, i wouldn't be able to tell if the M missed a gear or not. there is a very big difference between a mid 11 second car that traps mid 120's and a mid 12 second car that traps in the mid teens. i disagree with those who say it's very hard to drive at or near its limits; i find it very natural and balanced. power delivery is extremely predictable, the big fat power curve is very nice for non-straight-line work, and it's very neutral at its cornering limits. oversteer and understeer can be dialed in at will and once pushed past its limits, it's very easy to recover. brakes are spectacular. flip side: its limits are very high and it will bite you if you're stupid with the throttle. at any legal speed. also, ditch the runcraps. pilot super sports completely changed the personality of the car. i can actually hook it in first (through its torque peak!) on some pavement, and there's the obvious cornering prowess. with older GY runflats, i was having trouble hooking at under 80 mph on almost any pavement. C5Z is a great sports car, but the gap will be a lot closer performance wise. regarding the drag race between an M3 and the C5Z, the achilles heel for both the C5 and C6Z's has been traction. without very good tires, decently warm temps, a person who knows the car, and grippy pavement, good luck hooking first or second. sometimes third in the C5Z (geared a lot shorter than the C6Z). this problem was mostly solved for me with pilot super sports. but the C6Z still has problems hooking when temps drop below 65F. e92M is a phenomenally nice car. i am extremely impressed with its seats, engine sound, and the DCT transmission. i'm actually considering consolidating my 330ci and C6Z into a single e92M and will be shopping them this weekend. not sure if i'm willing to give up the outrageous performance of the C6Z tho. also not sure if i want to take such a big step down in fuel mileage. i see >=26 mpg on road trips and around 19 mpg in mixed. wish 'vettes had the DCT and some actual seats. seriously, their fat man lazboy cush seats are a long running joke for the 'vette guys. looks like they may have finally addressed this issue with the C7's optional seats, but i'll believe it when i sit in a set. except for the seats, i don't find the C6Z interior to be all that horrible: doors close nicely, everything's laid out well, driving position is great, the shifter placement is especially good, the electric doors are pretty awesome, it has true keyless entry + ignition, and even though it's colored like what i'd expect from a 1980's fighter plane, the HUD is so functional that i rarely look down to my regular gauge cluster. but the e92M interior >> that of the C6Z. and the e92M interior vs the C5Z interior is a more extreme beating than a would be a C6Z vs a corolla around the 'ring. perhaps if i pick up an e92M, i'll line it up with my old (now my mom's current) bolt ons C5Z and we'll see what's up. i expect the C5Z to have a slight advantage in a straight line and probably also around a road course. but not a huge advantage. if i don't pick up an e92M and decide to stick with my present mix of cars, i will likely be picking up one in a few years to replace the e46. except for the fuel mileage, i'm very impressed with them. but one parting shot: i think you guys should be comparing a C6Z with the e92M. the C5Z is a completely different price point (low 20's or even high teens) than is the e92M whereas the C6Zs are a lot closer. and so it becomes outrageous performance vs very very good performance and 'meh' interior vs. very nice interior. Last edited by nitrojunky; 02-22-2013 at 10:07 PM.. |
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