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05-12-2010, 01:03 PM | #221 | |
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But even if it were true - exactly how is 6k RPM not revving the hell out of the car? 6k RPM is damn high. Is it 8400RPM? No. But its high enough that statements about not having to rev the car are just plain ignorant. Anyone who buys any car - short of a diesel truck or something - and claims they can shift at 3k or 4k RPM and be able to get the full potential the car provides is just looking for a reason to hate on an M3. |
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05-12-2010, 01:19 PM | #222 | |
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Just one more caveat..not everyone is interested in WOT thru the 1/4 mile. I, for one, drive 90% of the time on the lower to mid RPMS and want power when I need it, not having to downshift constantly. And no, I will never get an auto or DCT. |
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05-12-2010, 09:33 PM | #223 | |
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And the graphs have nothing to do with quarter mile - yes they are WOT but they are just showing torque to the wheels in 3rd gear. And in terms of power when you need it, sorry the M3 gives instant response - although BMW have done a good job, I don't think they will ever be able to remove turbo lag for some time. Good old turbo lag influences the butt dyno too... |
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05-13-2010, 10:31 AM | #224 | |
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05-13-2010, 11:04 AM | #225 |
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Night and day my friend, that is 335 compared to M3.
When I first drove the M3 I was amazed at how much push you get revving at 5k rpm and after....I then tried the same in my 335i, it didn't go anywhere, it was like standing still after 5krpm....I was so disappointed on my 335i that I knew I must have the M3.
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05-13-2010, 12:45 PM | #226 |
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M3 vs 335 is like night and day.
It seems that the only ones who argue this are the 335 owners who haven't converted yet...LOL! However, please keep your 335. It will only make the M3 more rare. There is a reason why a nicely equipped m3 is $20k-$30k more. Too bad some of you are blinded by your constant need to compare to m3 to see that. Who ever told you that a 335 was close to the m3, was lying to you. If you would actually drive one, sit in one and take it all in, you will understand this. -SZ |
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05-13-2010, 01:02 PM | #227 | |
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I drove one for 3 years and just acquired a M3. M3 is way more polished and capable machine, including build quality, materials etc. But as a daily commuter, 335i did have a more pleasurable edge up to 5000 RPM, but beyond 5000RPM, that you wont need on your stop and go, M3 has a huge PLUS! More so, handling is simply out of the world, gar literally glides through the corners, and turns. Steering is possibly a bit different towards better, but I did love a bit more stiffer 335i steering. Now if we are talking about 335i vs 335iS, then jury is out. I liked that one quite a bit too. But for 7K more to bite that bullet? I think, quite a few will bite it. But it is no M3. Imo, you have to drive both cars for extended period to know their virtues. But I dont think in my daily driving if i have to go back to 335i, I will miss M much? But handling for sure! |
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05-13-2010, 01:23 PM | #228 | |
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Accellerating in a straight line: If at say 3k RPM and turbos are not spooled - so going from brake to gas - there is about a 1 to 2 second delay before you get the massive rush of torque - the torque part at 2-5k in the 335 is much better than in the M3. In the M3 you save that spool up time - but at 3k, the M3 doesn't have the pull the 335 has - which is a TON. It is a feel thing. BUT, if you are at 3k and slowly accellerating and then tromp it with the turbos spooled - which happens quite a lot with me, there is NO turbo lag and it would be MUCH better than the M3 at that RPM range. Yes, when the m3 hits the magic 5-6k the M3 wins hands down. Corners: M3 has much better throttle control in a corner, the LSD and other things makes it much more responsive and a better drive when cornering hands down. For example, on a corner in the 335, you have to hit the gas about a second before the corner apex to power through it, and then the turbo spools up and if you are too early or even a bit late, you break the inside wheel cutting fun, power and drive. In the M3 you have much more throttle control and can "drive" the car with the rear wheels with the LSD. this is what I am looking for in my car and why I am trading the 335 for the M3 There are certainly pros and cons to both. A Big F'n con is the price to get the M3... you basically have to donate a kidney to get one. Last edited by DaFish; 05-13-2010 at 01:36 PM.. |
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05-13-2010, 01:26 PM | #229 | |
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Personally, all it takes is one performance drive. Ask anyone that frequents the Mid-Atlantic Skyline runs and they will tell you what an amazing machine the M3 really is. A co-worker of mine had a 335, I test drove it twice (we swapped cars). However, ever since, he sold the 335 and picked up a nice 2008 M3. Unless you came from a 335 to an M3, I don't see many M3 owners driving a 335 too often..why would they. Unless of course you get one as a loaner. BTW, even in daily driving, a 335's handling is just fine. Do yourself a favor and discover the car that you own. Take a driving course or just go on a performance drive....you won't regret it. -SZ |
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05-13-2010, 01:30 PM | #230 | |
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1. A world class engine 2. A world class chassis 3. Nicer interior 4. More aggressive exterior 5. Brakes that stop on a dime 6. The prestige factor that comes with owning an ///M Essentially, a whole new car. Over 90% of the parts on an M3 are either tweaked or new from a 335. -SZ |
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05-13-2010, 01:37 PM | #231 | |
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Both are excellent cars! Either way, it will be fun ride! IMO, price to enjoyment/performance quotient ratio, is pretty high nevertheless in 335i with better mileage as icing on the cake! |
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05-13-2010, 01:41 PM | #232 | |
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I drive my Lexus Hybrid as a DD to compensate...LOL. -SZ |
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05-13-2010, 02:01 PM | #233 | |
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I see the 335is as a direct competitor to the S5 I think BMW did a good job. |
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Really? Someone forgot to tell me this. The only thing that kept me from revving my old E46 M3 and my current E92 M3 to redline are traffic and speed limits. I suppose if there were no traffic and speed limits then maybe it would get old. Yeah, right!
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Wow, so much interest in this. I would pick M3 over 335is at any time. 335is is more financially sound at this time. I might get an M3 next time if my commute gets shorter which is over 60 miles a day.
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