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01-29-2013, 08:36 PM | #199 |
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Whats projected and what really is, are two different things. When I see it with my own eyes that the new M whatever weighs less then the current model, them I will believe it. Until then, BMW has given us every reason to believe that it will weigh more. Their cars are over weight and bloated. Dont drink too much koolaid.
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01-29-2013, 08:58 PM | #201 |
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how am i in denial im saying the same thing as you?
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01-29-2013, 09:08 PM | #203 |
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okay you quoted me. i am a fanboy but as much for other brands as ours.
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01-30-2013, 02:43 AM | #204 |
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If you compare the e90 vs the f30, the f30 is supposed to be 88lbs lighter, but actual numbers don't show that much weight loss.
Searching the forums, you can find 6mt e90 335s on a scale weighing very close to 3700lbs. With the M3 weighing more than the 335, I wouldn't be surprised to see the larger F80 M3 with DCT and all the creature comforts to have similar weight as the current model. Like everyone else, I want lighter, but would be content with no weight gain. oh and diavel |
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01-30-2013, 02:33 PM | #205 |
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I love the new vette.
I'd love to pick one up when they're ~2 years old - after the 'new edition' mark-ups are over, and the used ones de-valued a bit. Used corvettes have usually been a super good deal. -scheherazade |
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01-30-2013, 09:46 PM | #206 |
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Oh please.
Right now it's just some pictures and numbers. I drove the C6 to see if it would take me out of the M and didn't like it as much, talking just as a driver's car. Z06 this and ZR1 other, all of a sudden we are talking $70-80-100k and beyond, and at that level I'd personally rather have a 997.2S, or GT3. Hell, I'm more excited about the new Cayman. So let's all rejoice that the C7 looks promising from all sorts of angles, and thank God they've finally fixed the interior, but let's not exaggerate prematurely. Unless you've already driven it?
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01-31-2013, 08:17 AM | #208 |
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Nothing wrong with that. I just wish you'd stop pushing them like they're the greatest thing on earth since, well, the wheel probably. It's a bit grating, especially on an elitist bimmer forum.
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01-31-2013, 12:35 PM | #209 |
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Well, when you have so many BMW fanbois that think the 911 is the greatest thing since pussy, then I gotta say something. Lets stay on track with the thread.
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01-31-2013, 01:37 PM | #210 |
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Some of us like slow cars(E9X owners) and some of us love fast cars, nothing wrong with that too
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01-31-2013, 06:20 PM | #211 |
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So what are you doing over here, come to flaunt the fastness of your car? Wouldn't you be better off mingling with the other fast car lovers? You know, swapping stories about how you dusted so many slow bimmers...
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01-31-2013, 06:21 PM | #212 |
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Well wouldn't those technically be Porsche fanboys? In any case, I don't think Corvette fanboys are in any way superior.
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01-31-2013, 06:48 PM | #213 |
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He's here being the defensive guy in every corvette thread. Don't mind him
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02-01-2013, 07:10 PM | #216 |
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Probably old news to some, but was reading a motortrend that said, "Chevy rejected a twin-turbo V-6 because while it delivered on power, it didn't improve fuel economy."
Chevy does have that cylinder deactivation with the V8, but interesting when compared to the M3's engine downsizing. |
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here is a funny story that is sure to get a smirk or two:
3 Years ago, I took the M-school and had some good fun. They have the instructors sit with you at lunch to talk about this and that. All great PR for BMW. Lots of talk of how much weight was saved on the M6 with the CF roof. So, I asked on of the lead guys why they had 3 brand new Z06 Vettes out in the back lot. I wanted to know if they benchmarked the BMW with the Vettes... His answer got me laughing. He said (in a low, hushed tone), "No, those are the instructor's personal cars." LOL! Within a few minutes, I had the table talking Vettes instead of M5/M6s! Not saying anything is better/worse....but still a "telling" story. |
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The beauty of the M cars is the dual purpose nature. A Corvette Z06 is undeniably the better performance car but no back seat, no trunk, limited daily practicality makes it less than an ideal DD. For a weekend toy and frequent track duty, the Z06 is hard to beat dollar for dollar. If you want to drive a car to and form the office with the occasional track weekend, that is where the M3 is great. I like to see that the BMW instructors were true enthusiasts who pick their personal cars based on what they prefer for their needs and not based on brand.
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