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This type of head-to-head comparison would be very interesting to see!
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=41 I remember following that thread and wondering what happened.
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good idea...would love to see this, but id bet it wont happen
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Can we use my car as a modified one? I have Fabspeed high flow cats, x-pipe, Gintani sport muffler, drop in filter. I will be driving through SoCal on my way to Arizona March 20-21, and will be in AZ March 22-24 (and then making the permanent move to AZ mid April). If PC or ESS would like to use my car for this PM me...
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If it happens where would this event take place?
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Like I said before, I am pretty much free most dates from March 20-April 15 and will be in the Phoenix area. I can travel out to SoCal as well. I am looking to get either a PC or ESS tune and am leaning towards ESS. My offer as the modified, non-tuned test car still stands...
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Yes, I think the NA tuning results are going to be very interesting indeed...
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Maybe I overlooked it, but I couldn't find an ESS NA tune dyno result in the DB, can we see one?
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^^^ Those numbers look very nice for just a tune on 91, Roman.
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but now you know the end result , actually i have them to thank cause i would have never found ESS nor got supercharged |
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Even though I'm very, very happy with my Powerchip tune, I'm also considering the ESS supercharger.
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That is certainly not the case. We've tuned well over 100 M3's and have never had a single customer with an engine problem. I've run the tune on my own car for over 15,000 miles. It still runs strong. We have been focused on engine management tuning as a whole, since 1991, and are also very well known for producing leading performance software for Mercedes and Ferrari, Porsche, Audi and most other European manufacturers worth mentioning. We can make even more power than we do already on the M3's, but there is no point when safety, reliability, or drive-ability are compromised. My idea of testing would be to take a stock car and perform the following procedure: 1) 3 Baseline runs stock 2) Have ESS tune it 3) 3 Runs ESS Tune 4) Flash ECU Back to Stock 5) 3 Runs with Stock Again 6) Powerchip Tune 7) 3 Runs with Powerchip I think comparing the runs will give a fair and accurate assessment of the tunes and how they perform. |
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this is such good exposure and think of the business (being a business owner) you will get if you do a thorough test of both tunes...i would want to show as much data as possible the only reason i can think of as to why you wouldnt want to show the public "everything" is because you have something to hide and it should definitely be done PG's way
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We have no problem recording and sharing any and all data during testing. I agree with Robert it is important that we record timing info also during a test such as this. I cant see why anyone would have a problem sharing this information.
AJ and myself are very interested to witness in person an NA tune on this car that makes the + 40 whp "safely" that PC advertises. Mike is more than welcome to run any custom map or stage 2 file needed during this test to make the most power he can. All we ask is that the data is recorded and shared so we can confirm timing and AFR's. Mike when you have time email me and we will set up a date that works for you to come to AZ. There are a number of shops here that we can use for testing. We would be more than happy to take care of all the details. |
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To me, this is actually ground breaking! Two well respected tuning companies willing to test each others tunes against each other in a civilized manner. I think this is the first we have seen on m3post!
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I'm cool with doing a test around here along the lines of what I described earlier. That will only take a couple hours to do. Anything that requires a serious time commitment will have to be scheduled far in advance. We do not advertise 40hp with just a tune. That's with a tune and exhaust mods. We are working however on some new projects for the M3 that should change the game up when they are released to the public Happy motoring everyone! |
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