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01-11-2010, 02:20 PM | #89 |
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Yes, edged him out on that run ET wise, he got me in another.
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Thanks Mike! You guys have done some incredible stuff with Dad's C63. Looking forward to seeing what you do with the S65.
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I'm looking at all possible options.
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01-15-2010, 12:27 PM | #95 |
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Numbers equivalent to some of the best S/C M3's but all N/A.
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/c63-am...n-numbers.html |
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01-15-2010, 02:11 PM | #96 | |
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Umm....didn't Drew's N/A M3 run faster ET's than the supercharged cars?
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01-18-2010, 05:25 PM | #97 |
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Robert, they're part of that "young" crowd, who are not really interested in dyno #'s that much. For the most part, Mbworld guys are more interested in 1/4 mile and 60-130 runs, or as you would call it "kiddie games" down the hall.
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01-18-2010, 05:36 PM | #99 | |
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01-18-2010, 11:44 PM | #100 |
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PencilGeek, it obvious, we will agree to disagree. Dynos just show power levels. Running the 1/4 mile, 60-130, illegal street races, etc, show your cars capabilities with another. That is what Drew and I believe are the best measures of F/I, thats it. Its like MMA (Been doing this for a few years) or martial arts, you may look cool doing the moves, but if you can beat anyone with it, whats the point. Peace bro.
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Drew you are the poster boy for "run your car not your mouth". Hope the holidays did you well sir.
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01-19-2010, 10:29 AM | #102 | |
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Dead on post. Quarter Mile times however can be misleading. They involve a lot more skill/variables then people would like to give credit to. Case in point Drew's M3 put down way better times then the EVO 3 C63(or any C63 I believe) at the last track event. He clearly isn't a novice here. However, in "Mexico" his car got walked on all their runs by the EVO 3 C63. |
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01-19-2010, 02:54 PM | #104 | |
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As you know traps are the main factor in determining whether or not your car is putting the power down, because ET's are launch dependent and some frankly can't launch, mainly because street tires do not provide enough traction, even on stock cars, but the trap will tell you what you need to know. Of course conditions play a roll, especially for NA cars, one can argue about all the variables forever, but IMHO 1/4 mile times/traps tell us a great deal. The EVO C63 is an awesome machine and was no doubt faster from a roll, mainly because it has 100 more whp than me, however at lower speeds we were closer, up top is where he starts to pull good, based on that I knew we'd have a good run in the 1/4 mile and we did. When we ran at the track, I edged him out because of a better launch, our traps were 115.x vs. 117.x at that time, so cleary he is capable of better times, and of course faster.
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Running at the track you look at 60ft times(track prep) and density altitude(power) and you will have a basic knowledge of the performance of the vehicle. Its real easy to gauge vs the different competition of the event as well. For me going to the track is about the competition and increasing my skill as a driver. |
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Still not a big Dyno fan as a way of expressing performance. Like I have stated before the difference between two of the exact same model dyno can be statistically significant. Two dynos(same model) same day runs, off by 35rwhp is significant. Dyno statistics can identify performance levels. Horsepower stats is creating an idea of the type of performance an auto should put down. Where as track times are the actual performance an auto puts down. I very much agree the actual numbers will very greatly. However this type of performance validation can never be taken away. |
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01-21-2010, 10:27 PM | #109 |
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As PG said, it was Sticky's M3, he's running a Gintani Supercharger kit, with water meth.
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