Worlds First: Savspeed Auto Twin turbo M3 V8 S65 build

[Savspeed Auto]

Originally Posted by Soden82

Are we looking at a potential niche market segment like what there is for GTRs, Lambos, R8, viper etc.

Referencing packages for built engines, twin turbo kits, 1200+whp kits, syvecs.

Yes that is correct. The option will be there to buy the kit or to send your motor to us so we can build it for you like a crate motor so to speak. The idea is to tap into that Niche market for the S65 and be supportive, accommodating and ultimately give our clients the joy they deserve when it comes to having such a special build.

[Savspeed Auto]

Originally Posted by drwankel

While this is really cool, I'd like to see a more refined filter/air inlet solution for the turbos than just a metal screen that is going to suck in hot air from the engine bay.

Unfortunately due to space constraints, this is the option that we went with for now. The development never ends as there is always areas that we can improve on and refine so we will be exploring different options as we go along. This vehicle in particular is getting a carbon fibre bonnet with custom ducts to ensure that the hot air is kept to a minimum.

[Savspeed Auto]

Originally Posted by omgzirra_exe

I really hope they are making the intake manifold/charge pipes in carbon fiber in the final production because all the carbon fiber hydro-dipped/overlayed stuff is throwing me off, lol.

A carbon fiber valve cover would be cool, but I also think that's hydro-dipped.

Good stuff, though. I hope this build actually runs, and it looks like it will because the other 'twin turbo' projects that we've seen before have never been heard of again.

So the final build on this particular E92 will not have carbon Manifold/charge pipes. We have done this purely to limit the costs of the build as it needs to be cost-effective. In saying that, we are able to produce anything that a client would like when it comes to certain aspects of the kit.

Thank you very much, we are looking forward to seeing what the future holds for the E92 M3 turbo market.

[omgzirra_exe]

Originally Posted by Savspeed Auto

So the final build on this particular E92 will not have carbon Manifold/charge pipes. We have done this purely to limit the costs of the build as it needs to be cost-effective. In saying that, we are able to produce anything that a client would like when it comes to certain aspects of the kit.

Thank you very much, we are looking forward to seeing what the future holds for the E92 M3 turbo market.

yeah the cost to produce would be insane... cause i was looking at it from a manufacturing standpoint the mold work would at minimum be made in aluminum.. which alone would be to expensive, unless you cad design the intake manifold directly and just create the mold from the model. but i'm sure that can be a V2 manifold at some later point in life.

good luck and we are rooting for you.

[euphoric]

What will be done the block itsself to reinforce? ive heard various s65 tuners say the block flexes and cracks above 800whp, me personaly i have cracked a sleeved block running 16psi with a g2 kit.

[Soden82]

Originally Posted by euphoric

What will be done the block itsself to reinforce? ive heard various s65 tuners say the block flexes and cracks above 800whp, me personaly i have cracked a sleeved block running 16psi with a g2 kit.

How much horsepower were you pushing when it cracked?

[Savspeed Auto]

Good afternoon everyone.

We would like to let you all know that we have made some massive strides forward in the last few weeks since our last update was shared.

Our main goal was dedicating time to fine tune all parameters and go through all of the functionalities on the Syvecs S7 Plus Ecu to ensure that when we release our Twin Turbo S65 kits worldwide we will be able to offer support to our clients and well... Our twin turbo S65 V8 is up and running.

We have tuned the car for low boost, everyday driving at 0.6bar boost and that is what can be seen in the video. We will be sharing dyno graphs comparing to a stock M3 V8 and various supercharged M3 V8's that we have run on our dyno. We know that every dyno is different and it is merely a point of reference to gain an idea of where we are heading.

We can confidently say that we surprised ourselves with the power we are able to make at such low boost and the motor obviously being decompressed to a compression ratio of roughly 8:1.

I am struggling to upload videos onto this forum, not sure if the video format is not suitable in mp4 but if someone could assist me in telling me what format I should use it would be greatly appreciated.

Here is the link to our Facebook Video of the Twin Turbo M3 V8 S65 on the dyno, let us know what you guys think: https://fb.watch/rjuvoDA7V3/

[Savage_M3]

Originally Posted by euphoric

What will be done the block itsself to reinforce? ive heard various s65 tuners say the block flexes and cracks above 800whp, me personaly i have cracked a sleeved block running 16psi with a g2 kit.

Exactly...

I thought Gintani hit the market first, but they claimed the block is the limiting factor and they kept the power tuned down.

[Soden82]

I’m guessing it’s a billet block unless they have proprietary sleeves that do not crack somehow.

[Savspeed Auto]

Good afternoon everyone,

Hope you are all well.

As we still await the arrival of our Twin Turbo M3 E92 S65 from the panel beaters as it is having a fair amount of exterior body work done, we thought we'd share what we have been getting up to with our single turbo S65 F30 full carbon fibre race car.

We attended the 2024 Simola Hillclimb event on the 3rd to 5th of May 2024 in order to showcase our S65 turbo motor to the world and it must be said we gained a lot of interest around our project. We had a great weekend with the car running flawlessly engine wise... only issues we had was getting our tyres up to temperature and we had a problem with our 2nd gear syncro, so we had to launch in 2nd gear which wasnt ideal.

We still managed to come P6 overall against arguably the fastest Hillclimb machines in the world and we were very proud of that. Below is a youtube video made by 64 Ziesing Racing summarizing our weekend;

Youtube link:

Hope you guys enjoy!!

[amrazM]

that in car video is great

[Savspeed Auto]

‘Savspeed Auto BMW M3 S65 Twin Turbo Update’

Good afternoon to you all,
Our twin turbo S65 M3 E92 is finally back from the panel beater after a 6-week delay which certainly wasn’t part of our time frame or schedule. Nevertheless, we have moved the car over to an ethanol E50 mix and have installed our upgraded fuel pump. The car was previously running on unleaded 95octane fuel from our local petrol stations with an added octane booster and ran flawlessly without any issue. We opted to change to E50 purely for development on the motor and conversion, we wanted to see the power and efficiency gains. We obviously would recommend using ethanol or a race fuel to run the car as it is always safer, especially when building such a high-cost motor. We had some more dyno time over the last week and have been testing and fine tuning the car to make sure it runs as smoothly and optimally as possible. We have given the car multiple power runs over the last few weeks while changing fuelling, timing etc to see what gives us the best spool up as well as the best power and torque curves all the way throughout the rev range. We have also started tuning in the traction control with the Syvecs ECU as we definitely will be needing that. Obviously, the amount of TC interference will depend on the driver and what they feel comfortable with. We have finalised the tuning for 8.5PSI which will be the everyday running boost and power settings for the car. We measure our power on our dyno in WKW. Here at Savspeed Auto we pride ourselves in being transparent with everything that we do and say. We are on this journey and are proud of what we have achieved so far… in saying this lets dive into the power figures,

Dyno Graphs;
Before we get into the details below, we want to make something extremely clear. We are not here to undermine the work done by any tuner or company, we are here to show the differences between our twin turbo kit and various supercharger kits that are available to the S65 market. Without the work and development done by the tuners and companies mentioned below, the E92 M3 S65 market would be non-existent. The only way to measure yourself is to measure yourself against the best because that is what we all strive to be. We believe a supercharger kit is a great addition to an M3 E92 and the supercharger kits are of exceptional build quality, all we have tried to do with our Twin Turbo S65 kit is show that it can be done and that we are excited to finally unlock the Turbocharged market for these vehicles.

A brief summary
Once again, we feel it is important to mention that a dyno is merely a point of reference. These are the figures that we have achieved with the standard S65, the supercharged S65’s and now our twin turbo S65 being at an altitude of roughly 1600m above sea level. We have seen certain supercharger kits overseas that offer up to 700hp on an S65 motor, but we have never had one to fit here locally so we can only show and compare with the kits that we have fitted and tested. Once again, the supercharger kit for the S65 is a great option.
It is important to note that we are actually revving our twin turbo S65 to 8000RPM, but it only shows 7200RPM on the dyno. The car revs so quickly that it hits the limiter every time we try change the dyno reading to end at 8000RPM so we adjusted it just to the point where we can run the car and it just doesn’t hit the rev limiter. We do have a high rev kit installed on our twin turbo S65, so we can probably rev it to 8600RPM but once we turn up the boost further, we will decide whether or not to do that.
The road ahead
Our plan going forward is the following, we plan to leave our S65 twin turbo at 8.5PSI and test the car thoroughly, we have taken the car for its first road test and once we post those videos on YouTube and Facebook, we will be sure to share the links to them for everyone to see. We then will be turning up the boost to around 11PSI to 14PSI and re-dyno the car and bring updated power figures and dyno graphs. In the interim we have a host of races lined up in order to share some comparisons on how our Twin Turbo S65 matches up against some of the latest and fastest supercars that can be bought to date.
Based on the gains that we have seen; we are extremely happy with what we have achieved so far. The twin turbo motor is very driveable, the Syvecs ECU allows for so much fine tuning that you really can manage to make the car drive like an OEM factory-built road car. This does take time, and we have been doing extensive testing on trying different things to see what works best for us and for the future of our twin turbo S65 builds, both locally and worldwide.

[Savspeed Auto]

Good afternoon everyone,

We have taken our S65 Twin Turbo for a road test and have shared a video about it on our Facebook page, click the link below to be taken to the video;

Link: https://web.facebook.com/share/p/KxXsiBjYK9m9vZvD/

Be sure to give our Facebook page a follow to ensure you stay updated with our latest builds and the latest news on our BMW M3 E92 S65 Twin Turbo.

Regards,
Team Savspeed.

[omgzirra_exe]

Savspeed Auto

IDK if your photo uploads messed up or you uploaded the wrong ones, but your first two dyno graphs, look similar and seem to be comparing it to TwinTurbo vs STOCK instead of TwinTurbo vs SuperCharger.

[Savspeed Auto]

Originally Posted by omgzirra_exe

Savspeed Auto

IDK if your photo uploads messed up or you uploaded the wrong ones, but your first two dyno graphs, look similar and seem to be comparing it to TwinTurbo vs STOCK instead of TwinTurbo vs SuperCharger.

Good evening,

On my screen the way its uploaded is the first graph is our Twin turbo vs ESS, then our Twin Turbo vs G-Power, then our Twin Turbo vs stock and finally our Twin Turbo vs VF.

That is the way it is displayed on the thread according to what shows up on my screen.

[omgzirra_exe]

Originally Posted by Savspeed Auto

Good evening,

On my screen the way its uploaded is the first graph is our Twin turbo vs ESS, then our Twin Turbo vs G-Power, then our Twin Turbo vs stock and finally our Twin Turbo vs VF.

That is the way it is displayed on the thread according to what shows up on my screen.

you know what, i was looking at the wrong numbers. i see the slight changes.

[Track/S]

Originally Posted by Savspeed Auto

Good afternoon everyone,
summarizing our weekend;

Youtube link:

Hope you guys enjoy!!

What kind of competition is that? 40 second sections? This wouldn't even give me enough to warm up.