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ah, so you`re invoking Einstein now instead of Newton. If you can reach the speed of light you will have no mass, hence no problems in the corners Einstein left Newton in the dust 100 years ago (must have gone to M School)
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word! so if we are sloe and dont break things he must break lots of things and that makes him Fast! I guess I'll try to break more things.
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Just wondering why you would pay ~$3500 for a two day instruction when you can go to a two day HPDE for ~$350. Granted, you're using your car, but tires and brake pads don't make up the $3150 difference
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The instruction, implied track insurance, the catering, the hotel, the helmet, the swag, the ability to drive all the current ///M cars.
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Very few things broke on my e46. SES light came on at the track, severe brake issues, broken rear sway bar mount. Bent some aftermarket wheels curb hopping. What I am saying is every fast driver I know has had some issues at the track, not necessarly major, but something.
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I use the DSC in my e46 to tell me when I'm not being smooth. I always leave it on. I've only had one corner on one track that the DSC would not allow a fast exit (hitting apex curb at T14 Thunderhill); so I turned it off there. Everyplace else it has kicked in has been because I was doing something wrong or made a mistake. I'm going to assume (from all I've heard) that MDM is less intrusive. So if it's kicking in, you're going slower than you could. Remember, smooth is fast. I've never broken anything on the e46 during track days. I've driven hard enough to bottom out the whole suspension (w/ 500# springs) coming through 8a at Laguna almost every lap, driven off the ends of track-out rumple strips at practically every track I've been to, and jumped the bus stop curbs at WG many times. People who break their cars at the track are unlucky or untalented in my humble opinion. It has nothing to do with going fast.
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Our point is that breaking your car is not a function of how fast you drive. It's a fuction of how bad you drive. Within reason, of course. No car is 100% reliable. Asuming I'm slow because I use DSC is flawed logic. The last time I was timed was at Sears Point in an old ITB 2002 in which I was having suspension set-up problems. I had the car builder, who was the track record holder, put in a few laps to help me dial it in. He couldn't improve on my time. These days, I don't need a timer to know if I'm on my game or not. The number of theoretically faster cars/drivers that I run down in a session tells me that.
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Funny how you keep talking about how to drive fast but won't answer the question of how fast you were. You can trigger MDM while driving very smoothly
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Why is it offensive to ask someone giving you advice on a subject for their qualifications on the subject?
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The last time I was timed was back in 2000 in a club race at Thunderhill. I was driving an ITB 2002 at over 3 minutes. At that time I was turning comparable times with the record holder at SPIR in the same car. None the less, I have little timed miles on track. And since it was so long ago, it means little, now. And another thing, if you are located in Silicon Valley, then your local tracks are the ones I am most familiar with. For all this harping you've made about my lap times, I would assume you have a racing resume that trumps any comments I may have made previously? We'll probably see each other at a lapping day or in a club race in the future (SCCA or BMWCCA). Maybe you can show me the way around the track.
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Basically lots of people have opinions on how to go fast. Before I listen I just want to know their opinion is supported by real experience. For exampe if you got advice on a diet plan you would listen to the person that lost 150lbs and was now healty over the one that still weighed 350lbs.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...26878137&hl=en THill 2:04 http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...19264416&hl=en I've since gone faster at THill but didn't have the camera at the time. Point is I hear a lot of people talk about "smooth is fast" and then never go out and back it up. I always laughed when those same people would tell me that Fernando Alonso drove the wrong way and would be faster if he was "smoother".
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