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IF you want to get really technical and scientific the reality is the S65 driven in this manner would easily be faster than most normal or average acceleration cars driven in this manner. Most cars do not have 295 ft lbs @ 3900 RPM, that only weigh 3600 lbs, not accounting for very aggressive gearing that multiplies tq at the wheels. The torque at the wheels, average HP for the cars weight and forward G forces in this car would be higher/faster than most ICE cars on road below 5500 RPM let alone what happens after that. It's just a deceptive power delivery. I'm not trying to argue but the truth and people's comments don't align very well when it comes to this topic. |
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03-27-2020, 09:02 PM | #28 |
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It's not perception, it's a reality l live every time I drive my car. Most modern day turbo commuter cars are geared/tuned for around town and upto freeway speeds which is the opposite of an m3, mix varying non shifting transmissions and they don't need a ton of torque to do alright off the line at a traffic light. I mean don't get me wrong I can rev the car right catch the clutch perfectly and take off like a rocket but when your car has a custom exhaust it makes you look like an asshole. It doesn't help that everybody that sees as m car wants to test you so you feel like your perpetually racing everyone. You can argue the numbers all you want, the reality is it's missing something. Again this is only spoken as a 6mt driver, so shift times come into play. my car is heavily modified too including a shorter gear set. It's the reality of a short stroke small displacement v8 but also the beauty, quick revs and rev happy I love it don't get me wrong.
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First and second at half throttle, no power-mode can feel a bit sluggish, but I definitely don't have to shift at 5500 to keep up with traffic off the line. I usually keep the revs between 2800 and 3800 for normal, around town driving and never feel like I'm lagging behind traffic. If I want to rocket around slow moving traffic I'll just let the revs climb to 4k in second or third and punch it, then shift around 6 so I don't get arrested, lol.
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I've had my e92 for a few years now. Bought it with mid 50k mileage. Excellent condition. Took me about a dozen cars (and 6-12 months of my time) to find one in the right condition with the right specs.
Ive spent about 5k in preventative/general maintenance. Not including consumables and oil changes, etc. But I feel pretty confident in this car being reliable now - as much as anyone can expect anyway. If you're patient, you'll find the right car. Good luck with your search. |
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Like most have said, do yourself a favor and drive an E9x before you sell your M2C. Before i bought my current car, I had cars with more power. I was sure I wanted a E92, however after driving one I wasn't so sure. The driving experience was as awesome, but it was lacking the power I was used to. I ultimately found a very low mile supercharged car in perfect condition so my decision was easy.
Keep your car, it is very nice indeed! If you are a true "car guy" any car you love you will want to keep it nice.
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04-06-2020, 12:24 PM | #35 |
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For daily driving, the M2c is probably better.
If you're going to track it, get the E9x. That motor will always put a smile on your face. And sounds 1,000x better. .
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For proof, just go to any track day, you'll find lots of people who could beat the world record if only they had the right car, the right tires, the right alignment, the right helmet, the right battery, etc etc etc
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I'm basing this off my M2 which is an OG with the N55 - so a comp might be a different animal. I personally don't think the S55 would make the difference for me though as far as being a daily driver. They are awesome cars though & I love mine for what it is - but I don't think it can touch the E90 M3 as a DD. M2's can also be an absolute blast on the track too - but oh revving that S65 out just stirs the soul... |
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I plan to write a full review at some point, but for comparison I did about 15K miles and 20 track days in my E90 M3, I have around 3K on the M2C. Ultimately it depends what your looking for in a car because whilst they are both very fun to drive they get there in quite different ways. I'll just stick to dynamics for now..
The chassis in the M2C feels light years ahead. It feels stiff and solid, like you are driving a 'square' almost as the wheelbase is so short and the front track so wide. It turns in way more keenly than the M3 and feels like a much lighter car. The back end in particular feels like it has no slop whatsoever, pedal position translates into instant movement. The downside is the steering is far less communicative, it took me longer than I expected to approach the limit in the M2C due to the lack of front end feel. However once you get dialled into it its actually very easy to hustle along as its accurate and the rack is ultra responsive. The brakes there is no contest, the M2C brakes feel better than the e9x brakes in every conceivable way. I really enjoy the ferocity of the S55, it's satisfying to rev out and is very linear. Only the slightest hint of lag and the turbos don't really kick in properly until 2.6K revs or thereabouts. What I miss is the lovely S65 induction warble between 3-4K RPM in the M3. After about 4.5K RPM the S55 is very loud, mainly as the M2C has no sound deadening. Personally I would only make the move if you want a more long legged, GT feeling car. The M3 feels more 'natural' and less immediate than the M2C which may be what you are looking for. Stock for stock I would take the M2C. Your M2C has all the right mod's as well... However If your picking up a nice E9x and dropping $20k on mods to sharpen the driving experience that may be a different story, but keep in mind the grass is always greener. I spent a year looking at M2C's, then I got one and now I look at GT3's... there's a lot to be said for enjoying what you have |
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I have no problems admitting that this car couldn't keep up in some situations with even cars like an M340i, but I think it's silly to say the car can't keep up with regular traffic. For me personally, the S65 is such a sweet spot when it comes to being able to enjoy on the streets vs say a 992 Turbo that can only be enjoyed at full throttle for 1.5 seconds at a time. P.S It could just be that I also have a bone stock engine US S52 E36 M3 with a 5MT. And even I find that "adequate". Not like going full throttle merging on the highway and still going the speed limit. Quote:
I think it's by far one of the best bargains on the market right now. I can't think of too many cars where I'd consider buying new since I'm more of a buy used kind of a guy. The M2C truly is a weapon and M at their very best.
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my e90 m3 has Bimmerworld Precision Front Upper Control Arm Bearing Kit, stiffer purple diff bushings, and solid subframe bushings. It still doesn't compare to the M2 (n55). I think I need coilovers to get close.
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