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Also as you mentioned, they are quite sensitive to ambient temps. In the North East winters my car feels quicker, no doubt about it. It certainly revs more keenly. I only run the car on 93. The example you drove my also be a little tired, when were the spark plugs last changed on it? |
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01-15-2018, 10:59 AM | #245 |
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As Montaver points out, the s65 is also a lot more sensitive to old spark plugs than the S54, since they're doing double duty as knock sensors. It also is more sensitive to environmental conditions, as it is much more actively/constantly pushing the timing till it senses the beginning of knock, and then slightly pulling it back (whereas the MSS54(HP) more follows a predefined (based on air temps, air density, etc) curve unless it senses knock, at which point it pulls it back pretty hard).
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01-15-2018, 03:07 PM | #246 |
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Okay - just drove an '08 sedan 6MT with 30k miles.
Boom! Car feels great, power is crisp and top end rips hard to redline. Car is virtually mint inside and out, may pull the trigger on it. Below 5k rpm it feels roughly equivilent to a healthy 46M, maybe just a tad more power but within the noise. Up top, though, things get fun. This is what I recall about some of the "good" ones I've driven but boy are there a lot of shitty ones out there misrepresenting the model. Interestingly, the two E9Xs I've connected with most have been '08 6MT sedans. Go figure. Based on my experience today I can see that bone stock, this car will satisfy me. What I don't want is to buy a car that needs mods to be fun. The 46M delivers out of the box and so that's been my "bar". A healthy, fresh E9XM is quite good as well. Last edited by EricSMG; 01-15-2018 at 03:12 PM.. |
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01-15-2018, 06:21 PM | #251 |
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I don't think I'll be able to replicate the power I have in my f10 m5 lol if I could come somewhere close to it that would be great... but I know the handling is where the m3 is at
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01-15-2018, 06:26 PM | #252 | |
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Before I purchased mine....I test-drove 2 dcts with comp package and 2 6MT (1 with/1 wo comp package) and the 6 MT "felt" faster every time, even though it's actually not. The 6MT lets you wind up the motor to YOUR satisfaction before shifting and thus it feels faster. Maybe its the gearing too?
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01-15-2018, 07:23 PM | #253 | |
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I did drive a fast DCT car once. And some slow ones. And some slow 6MT cars. |
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03-05-2020, 10:54 AM | #254 |
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I currently own an 05 e46 m3 with the SMG and i don't understand the hate with the transmission, I feel like most people who hate on it either heard from someone else that it sucks who heard it or read from another person that it does but its truly a great unique transmission that once you learn how to use it properly it is very rewarding and a great car for a daily driver which I have used as a daily for the past 3 months now. Being said that, im trading my car for an e92 m3 in a 6-speed which i'm very excited for. Ill let you know which one I end up liking more!
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03-09-2020, 05:57 PM | #255 |
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New to this glorious place, so not sure if this is poor form, but I actually wrote an article on exactly this conundrum a year and a half ago - hopefully puts anything I could say here in better (and admittedly a lot longer!) form:
https://www.fitzroymotor.co.uk/2018/...e-your-weapon/ |
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03-10-2020, 07:15 AM | #257 |
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You made M3forum dot net members happy, though that forum has been down for a week. They are the the biggest proponents of the E46. This forum is the place for E9x supporters.
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