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03-01-2018, 12:51 PM | #45 | |
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I remember a reputed M3forum.net user called Mr Wolfe. If I'm not mistaken, he bought ZCP wheels (OEM) and then took them to a place that made them wider, basically by welding an additional section. This allowed him to have really wide ZCP wheels. Maybe this is the perfect option? As far as APEX, yes they are good for the track but aesthetically (due to details and finish) cannot hold a candle to the ZCP or the TE:AL wheel from Bimmerworld. @VIBE Motorsports has a really nice wheel, the VS02. This is available in 19" https://www.vibemotorsports.com/stor...56?sort=rating
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We certainly have different goals with this platform. I am more than happy with the stock handling characteristics. My very first mod was a supercharger, and I probably wouldn't own this car without one at this point to be honest. I'm right there with ya that if my goals matched yours, I would be considering completely different wheel options. Different strokes for different folks!
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Too bad this never came to fruition: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1348695
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I would imagine handling will be improved from stock no matter what just due to having more grip (correct me if I'm wrong) and I'm really not sure I would notice the drawbacks of a 295 on a 10" wheel in my day to day driving. It's important to keep in mind that I basically never push the handling limits of my car outside of the very-occasional track day where I run in the novice group anyway. I don't live in Cali and don't have the luxury of having canyon roads in my backyard so even runs down twisty roads are few and far between . I totally understand and agree that a 295 on a 10" wheel is not ideal from an ultimate handling perspective, I just don't think I care about that to be honest. If I did, I would be looking at set of 18" Apex wheels. What I do care about is getting power down in 2nd gear with the supercharger and having great looking wheels...
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I don't see how 295 is so bad on a 10". BMW themselves took out the GTS with a 10" wheel and a 285 rear tire. 295 is pretty close to that! 10mm more will destroy the handling of the car vs the GTS which was built for exceptional handling? |
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03-01-2018, 06:14 PM | #52 | |
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i run 295/30's on my zcp's and they look great. pilot sport 4's, so i don't know how they compare to others in terms of thickness. although i love the beauty of the zcp wheels, i like the way 18's ride and feel. i think one of the best feeling wheels on this car would probably be the bbs rkp 18" FI. i wouldn't know, because i don't have the money for bling wheels, because racecar.
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I have not denied that the 295 would work on a 10" wheel. It's not going to destroy the handling. It just won't be as good as it could be. A 275 or a 285 is a better fit. Are you disagreeing with that statement? By the same token I will ask - is a 295 going to provide appreciable performance improvement? Will a 275 "destroy" the car's traction? I believe the sole motivation for going to a 295 in this instance is the improve straight line traction. I don't want to argue anymore. I stated my opinion. I'll stop now.
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Personally I like maxing the wheel width for a given tire width. I switched my 10" square setups for a couple 10.5" ones without changing tire width, as more wheel provides more grip when used with the same tire. The thing is he has a limitation which is the ZCP wheel. Other than widening the wheel through the link I sent which seems kind of ghetto, he is limited to a 10" wheel. I think the 295 will bulge a little with that wheel and would be bad if it were on the steering end of the car, but it's not. So will a 285 have more grip than a 295 mounted on the same wheel? I still don't think so. That said, the ps4s have tons of grip and maybe he would be happy with the 285. Cheers man |
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Correct, straigt line traction is the motivation here. Admittedly I am projecting on whether going from a 275 to a 295 would be an appreciable improvement in this regard and would be interested in hearing people’s first hand impressions.
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I have 19x10 square ZCPs. Absolutely zero regrets and I love having the ability to rotate tires.
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I love the ZCPs as well. I was going to widen the OEM 10" wheels to 11" so I can really support a 295 tire propertly. A 295 on a 11" wheel looks so good...my car with a 275/295 setup VMR V810 flow formed wheels ET25 front and rear.
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You could also try a stickier 275. If you drive only in warm weather, maybe an RA1. If you drive only in warm, dry weather, maybe an R888. Not sure if these come in 19s but they may be alternative sticky tire choices or street tires that are higher performance than what you have now. |
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Where do you live in WI? I'm from Green Bay.
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I drive year round as well, in NH, but get only 2-3 years from rear summer tires, and 3 years for the rear snow tires. PS4 should be an improvement over S04. I will probably try them next (have burned up PS2, PSS, and am on Conti ECS now). Not sure I want a sticky whiner like RE71 or RA1 on my comfy cruiser. I have RA1 for summer on my turbo E36M3 (which is also on snows now).
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A quick search revealed multiple people post about bent OEM ZCP wheels, and people talking about how they are "known to be really soft." I'm not so sure the people who have complained of bent/cracked AG wheels would have fared any better with OEM. If strength is the main concern, forged is the answer. Avante Garde wheels are low pressure cast same as OEM, they pass JWL and VIA standards, and even weigh within 1lb of OEM. AG is also not some no-name eBay China garbage brand. I'm not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand what exactly I should be afraid of here...
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