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You mean to tell me you would spend all that extra money for 4 seconds at the 'ring and a slower 1/4 mile time ? Oh i almost forgot that M// badge for your egos. To me the best value is the 335 hands down. If im spending 70k its the z06, btw it would crush u on either a roadcourse or 1/4 track. Keep waving your M flag boys. |
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With the prices you've got in the States there is no excuse to buy a 335 and modify it if the M3 is available especially now with the DCT coming. You don't find any M3 owners going to the 335 forum but only the other way around, that must be saying something to you! If you need to justify your purchase to yourself, do it in bed at night! nuff of this nonsense.
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02-03-2008, 06:55 AM | #113 | |
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Apples-for-Apples, the M3 is still $20K more expensive. The bottom line is this, the M3 got beat by a modded 335i in the only magazine comparo there is. The M3 is slower than a modded 335i in every category. BMW themselves admitted how close they are by welding the 335i differential housing, a tactic used as a desperate last resort. Even the magazines are saying if you want a driver's car, wait for the 135i tii. BMW screwed up with the too little, too late V8 engine. They screwed up with mandatory active steering and lesser floating caliper brakes than what is on the 135i (proper 6 pots). They screwed the pooch on this one, and only M fanbois think otherwise. Last edited by sdiver68; 02-03-2008 at 11:41 AM.. |
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"the Servotronic power steering has dual-modes...somewhere around 70 mph there is a change in effort...it makes slalom runs difficult" Another quote from the same issue: "even the new M3 retains what many consider inferior brake components" |
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You obviously didn't excel in much.
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ok... and thats not active steering, get your facts right. AS varies the steering gearing. I've read nothing but praise for the M3's brakes. Its like your AS argument someone told somebody else that a floating caliper system is bad...pls |
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02-03-2008, 10:54 AM | #120 | |
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Do you just assume that since you see a 6 pot caliper it must be better? Not a good round of posts for you lately.
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The thing that amazes me is how people who have never sampled the new M3 can discuss what you believe is wrong with it. It makes me laugh out-loud. |
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Not an accountant. Why? Do you think someone who can do simple arithmetic must be an accountant?
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OK, Active steering was the wrong choice of words, although I know that BMW's version of Active Steering is not on the M3. How about in the future I use the longer term "variable speed sensitive steering with a discernible switch in effort around 70 mph" that most every review has complained about, or VSSSDSE70, for short
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I asked if you are an accountant because often they look at a set of numbers and interpret them incorrectly. The fall of the US automobile industry is often described as partially the result of short sighted accounting decisions. |
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02-03-2008, 11:38 AM | #127 | |
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Oh what a witty reply and how many rallies have you done. From the country which believe racing is going around an oval always turning in one direction and you are trying to tell me I don't know my business. You haven't driven the M3 so don't assume you know what it is or isn't like. I listen to too many would be roadtesters on this site that know precious little when they say that the M3 isn't superior to the 335i. |
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Do you truly believe you have a clue about the M3 versus the 335
a 135 , spec Miata, C6 Corvette or 911 without driving them on the same track? With all the mightier than thou comments you have made here regarding the 335 and M-3 I would expect you to have a modified track prepared car. I call BS put up or shut up how is your 335 modded ? where are the pics, track times, real world comparisons, onl come from real world experiences I take it you have driven a new M3, and a 135 on a track, with a 335 to compare ? Come over get your FIA certificate and run the cars your yapping about
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