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01-08-2008, 03:53 PM | #24 | |
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Your estimates are correct and so is the weight of the M3 because we already have a bunch of test results to go on and none of them are as low as the one from R&T. I reckon your money is safe. |
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01-09-2008, 08:26 PM | #25 |
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2 very nice cars but very different,
a bimmer follower is going to always go for the M3 1. smoother 2. more refined 3. better steering feel the vette fan always the vette 1. looks nicer 2. raw power 3. better track car the vette is faster, what holds it back is 1. traction limited can't put the power down. 2. poor intake system, just a cold air intake and v-ram will cut as much as .4 of the 1/4 mile times. look here and this is an 07 http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lap-2007.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times |
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01-09-2008, 11:05 PM | #28 |
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The vette may be faster, but it's not as refined, or as nice to drive as the M3. It only has 2 seats and it's much less daily-driver friendly. Apart from that, even though I don't find that the car is ugly, it's too much shouty and cheese. (kind of vulgar in this days).
That's why it has lost market Vs the european models, even though it's a bargain (performance Vs speed). I really think it's a great car, specially now that they offer the option for full leather interior, but I wouln't buy a vette over a BMW, Audi, MB or other european cars. |
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01-10-2008, 09:52 PM | #29 |
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each to his own, there are many nice performing cars out there and to come
Acura: new NSX BMW: M division Benz: AMG division Chevy: vette Nissan: GTR Lexus: ISF Porsche: 911 and of course the really expensive makes. as it may be you'll be seeing the tail pipes of that chevy 9 out of 10 times, no I take that back 10 out of 10 times. |
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01-10-2008, 10:16 PM | #30 | |
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1. R8 2. 911 GT3 or Carrerra S 3. Aston Martin I must say though the new GTR is very tempting, but I say it'll take 1 1/2 years before the price gouging subsides. and while the vette is not as refined, it's does drive well and one hell of a performer. and is very good looking, and it is fun to pull on E63's, M5's, 911's, and 360 Modenas |
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01-21-2008, 09:18 AM | #31 |
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your thinking brotha...thats what i would like to know
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01-21-2008, 11:46 AM | #32 |
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Own an 08 C-6 and have spent 2 days with the M3 at
The Nurburgring even have a 335 convertable (my wifes) to compare it with
On a race track, the lighter C-6 will prevail hands down, the 436 HP make it closer to a M-6 a Ferrari 430 is just marginally faster, The reason I am buying an M-3 is as a daily driver, period it is a different car the C-6 If you are planning on a drag race, don't tell the guys in Munich They will cringe and hope you buy something else Real Racing involves cornering
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01-21-2008, 05:59 PM | #33 |
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IMHO anyone that has owned a BMW would most certainly not consider buying a Vette. Especially knowing that the ///M division is coming out with the new M3. to me they are two totally different cars and the M3 poops on the Vette in every way possible (sarcasm)
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01-21-2008, 06:36 PM | #34 | |
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08 Vette with darn near every option in the book sells for about 55K (dealer invoice or possible invoice +1K) M3 STARTS at $57K...and when I added the options I wanted I was up close to $68K ~$13K is alot of money....somewhere around $250/month on the car payment. That being said...no way to "win" on one side or the other. Vette people will always back their cars and likewise for the BMW crowd. just my $0.02
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I agree, at least we are both honest and respect both cars. They are both great cars, just offers different things |
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01-22-2008, 04:42 AM | #36 | |
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Getting back to the main topic...since the cars seem to be so close in the 0-60 race, I think the deciding factor is going to be the driver.
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01-22-2008, 10:46 AM | #37 | |
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Like you said it's down to preference. But when it comes down to just performance. Stock for stock a M3 will never be able to stay with a Vette. Equally matched drivers, the M3 will always see the tail pipes of the Vette. As the thread said which is faster a C6 or M3 let's see what's faster than a M3, 2 vehicles in this comparo http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...z-e63-amg.html Low and behold, the C6 is faster than those vehicles, hence it's faster than the M3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lap-2007.html that was a LS2 without the steering, engine and transmission improvements, I'm sure the LS3 will cut a couple of seconds off those times. a member who has driven both cars wrote: The Nurburgring even have a 335 convertable (my wifes) to compare it with On a race track, the lighter C-6 will prevail hands down, the 436 HP make it closer to a M-6 a Ferrari 430 is just marginally faster, The reason I am buying an M-3 is as a daily driver, period it is a different car the C-6 If you are planning on a drag race, don't tell the guys in Munich They will cringe and hope you buy something else Last edited by spearfisher; 01-22-2008 at 12:34 PM.. |
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I know given the same driver, the C6 would outrun me. But having said that, I kept right on a C6's tail at the track until we hit the straight. As soon as we hit the corners again, I caught up. This was in my mostly stock 325ci... I'm anxious to see how much quicker the M3 is on the track.
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Does a driver make a difference? yes but in the topic M3 faster than a C6? the answer is no it not what the driver can do but what the car is capable of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times 1. E92 M3 8:05 2. 2005 C6 7:59 3. 911 turbo 7:56 yet in this comparo the C6 is faster, http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lap-2007.html cars are always making small minor tweaks, I'm sure the later M3 models will be faster also. but in this comparo it was a 07 C6 not an 08 which has 1. more HP 2. better steering (C&D advised the new steering allows the new C6 to enter corners as much as 4-5 mph faster) 3. better tranny |
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How much faster was it and when and where was the test done?
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the corvette is not as cheap as you think. you must invest in an array of gold chains and several toupes to drive one.
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If I were you I wouldn't go on Pinks and race a 08 C6 with an M3 if I were you or with your 535d, even if you produce a Polish publication showing the 535d being faster than the C6.
I would trust these sources instead here is tests done by car and driver 08 C6 http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/d..._z51_08_ss.pdf 08 M3 http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/d...mwm3_08_ss.pdf 08 IS-F http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/d...xisf_08_ss.pdf here is more stuff for your knowledge and these sources have the 08 C6 LS3 quicker than the Audi R8 and the R8 is faster than the M3. http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6169 http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...5/pageNumber=1 http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/27/2...and-up-to-436/ http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...nvertible.html http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6281 http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-corvette.html |
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