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07-15-2014, 01:17 PM | #67 |
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Apples to oranges. E36 was never really a true m car. It's a watered down version. Really just a hopped up 3 series. |
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07-15-2014, 01:28 PM | #69 |
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If you bothered to even half read my post, you'd understand what I'm saying. The point was that even this "watered down" M3 still has appeal, thus why some of them are going for E46 money.
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Shit I sold my M3 w/ tons of nice mods and low miles for much less that what high mile 100k + cars are brining now. The e92 may not garner a huge appreciation but it will stay level, while everyone esle continues to overlook the fact that the e90 is a LIMITED PRODUCTION car. Shit, the e90 m hasn't been made in almost 4 years now. Total numbers world wide are under 10K, and less for the States. People in this thread (not you) are mocking.. No one is claiming that this car is a piece of gold, this is a thread to start discussion, and many of the resposnes are very stuck up sounding. I bought my car to drive the shit out of it, not sit. Drove over 1,000 miles this week for work. I love it, but I also recognize that it is a unique, limited car. How many e92 do you see every day? How many e90? Also people tend to forget that all e92 (m3, 328, etc. share the same body) while the e90 m3 has the e92 front headlamps and regular e90 have pre and post facelift lights. Only the e90 m3 looks different. |
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I'll say it again, I don't care for "carbuzz" or whatever it is, but we're also not talking about the car appreciating past sticker price??? Are people in this thread that dumb to think the article stating appreciating in value means that the car will be worth more than new???? Appreciating in value means that car has depreciated, leveled out, and is now climbing. Think about Porsche 964 value. That car was around 10-15k only a few years ago.. Now the stance kids are driving the prices from seeing Rotiforms and RWB posters. e9x value are already very, very stable and haven't dropped too much in past months. |
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Every one of these cars will be special to different people for different reasons. The question is how many people want to own one, how many good examples are left, and how much money those people are willing to part with to own one. Some muscle cars have skyrocketed in price because they're the cars that many guys wanted to own when they were kids, and now they have the money to put the car in their garage. How many kids growing up these last 7 years, watching videos and reading about how fantastic the E9x is/was, will desire to own one some day and work to make it happen, just as kids now are learning about how fast and balanced the F8x is? Certain cars from each generation always stand out from the pack, either for looks or performance or both, and the ///M cars have, to this point in their history, always managed to do that. I have no doubt that E9x values will continue to drop for a while, but it will be interesting to see exactly where they will level off for a clean, well kept car. The E30 was the original, so it will probably always carry the highest value, but the prices for it have only recently been skyrocketing. http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtool...port?vc=848010 Here are a couple more reference points (and now I'm going to be on the lookout for one of these beauties!): http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtool...port?vc=877254 http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtool...port?vc=877701 |
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I never once said that the US E36 M3 is considered an E46 M3 or anything like that. As a matter of fact, that's the very reason I wrote that it's the bottom of the barrel M3. Yet, even it's starting to rise in value. So I don't see how it's any different than an E46, an E92 ect... Btw, when the E9x came out the first couple of months, late model E46's were also holding their value. I find it ironic that you mention the ECE version of the M3 btw. If it had anything resembling the Euro engines or S54, I would have skipped on this car. The fact that it has this engine was a HUGE reason why I picked it. Bulletproof, very low maintenance (I struggle to think of a more reliable engine BMW ever made, maybe M30?), cheap should I blow one up, and makes good power if I decide to go F1. Think about this, the US M3 makes 240 ft-lbs of torque (this matters when you are putt putting around town). That's only 55 ft-lbs less than our beloved V8, but the car weighs a whopping 5-600 lbs less than an E9x.
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No doubt the e36 is a cool car and your right pricing is pretty good... I shouldn't have made it sound so harsh, but what I'm getting at is that while yes the reliabiity factor is cool, it's really close to it's 328 brethern and shares essentially the same engine.
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07-15-2014, 03:09 PM | #78 | |
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For someone that is just beginning to track like myself, a modded E92 was just too much. I really thought people were exaggerating about the E36, but I can see why they are so well liked. Just like pretty much every single M3 that has been made actually. They all have their advantage!
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The reason I brought it up was to show Ezio that even a "faux" M car can rebound too. At the end of the day, all these M3's minus the E30 were massed produced cars, so they'll almost all certainly follow the same trend.
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Speaking of "faux" ///M cars, that really fake 1M is the only ///M car that has appreciated in value (..selling for more used than they did new). Damn fake ///M's!
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