Nordschleife (Nürburgring) Trips

[karussell]

going this weekend. 7/12-13

[karussell]

going next weekend too. 7/20-21

[STi_traitor]

Originally Posted by karussell

going next weekend too. 7/20-21

I would love to go but Afghanistan kind of gets in the way. BTW, take my car out of your sig....hahaha!

[karussell]

Originally Posted by STi_traitor

I would love to go but Afghanistan kind of gets in the way. BTW, take my car out of your sig....hahaha!

afghanistanring then.
I like MY old car in the picture.

stay safe! where are your keys, i'll keep the M3 warm for you

[karussell]

ok, new plan. 7/27-28 Nürburgring. lets have a big group. M5's M3's. 1M's. 135i. 128i. porsche. vw. mustang. viper. dodge. triumph. honda. beamer. scooter. whatever. come on out. lets have fun. new to the track. let me know. be glad to show you around safely. its great fun. on and off the course.

[My Schnell]

Going Sunday, 7/21. Anyone else?

[karussell]

great day last saturday. sunny. dry. warm. not too crowded. had to deflate Pilot SS down by 15 psi. the track temps made tires greasy and very drifty.

[335igawnM3]

Anyone planning to go in September? That's when I go on leave...

[STi_traitor]

Originally Posted by 335igawnM3

Anyone planning to go in September? That's when I go on leave...

I have another Nurburgring thread in the UK section you should check out. They said they were going around the 15th.

[cprx7]

I'm leaving for Munich tomorrow any events going on this weekend??

[karussell]

Originally Posted by STi_traitor

I have another Nurburgring thread in the UK section you should check out. They said they were going around the 15th.

I have a race on the 14th there. who needs tickets?
driving clio cup.

[STi_traitor]

Originally Posted by karussell

I have a race on the 14th there. who needs tickets?
driving clio cup.

Good luck!

[karussell]

going to be there this sunday all day. anyone else?

[karussell]

be there sunday, Sep 15th all day.

[STi_traitor]

Originally Posted by karussell

be there sunday, Sep 15th all day.

Won't be there anytime this season but I will have a set of KW Clubsport 3-ways for next season!

[karussell]

Originally Posted by STi_traitor

Won't be there anytime this season but I will have a set of KW Clubsport 3-ways for next season!

waste of money.

[TurboBimmer]

Originally Posted by karussell

waste of money.

Care to elaborate?

[STi_traitor]

Originally Posted by karussell

waste of money.

Already done!

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Care to elaborate?

+1

[RingMeister01]

Wish I could join in!

[TurboBimmer]

Anyone going to the Ring next Sunday?

[karussell]

Ian you should know exactly why as i have explained it to you before. Bluntly put you did not understand the suspension settings on your STI and i'm fairly confident that was a contributing factor to your "move" to a different car. At the apex of wipperman there is a nice bump and you probably bounced off your bumpstop causing instantaneous 100% traction front right wheel and 0 on your rear left causing you to spin. If you had stock suspension you probably would still be driving your STI.

Second point. Too many times i have met students obsessed with their suspension settings versus just concentrating on driving. i guarantee you will waste a lot of time changing bump rebound and rate and not show any improvement in your time. which brings me to my other point. worse case is you set the shocks too firm and you blow a seal on them ruining the shock on your first lap out and then you are really going to be pissed.


the ring is a very rough track. even the stiffest setting on edc i find you have less traction as the car hops around a lot. if you are worried about ultimate lap times you will crash the car. not a matter of if….its when and how serious. when you want to switch to triple adjustable suspension which isn't even legal for half the field in the VLN it should be because you have extracted every last inch of performance from your car and you are competing.

If its just for fun, then I say again, its a waste of money. but its your hard earned cash and you certainly earned it. enjoy in good health. that money would be better spent on tuition at scuderia hanseat. that school alone will probably net you the single biggest improvement in your driving technique and resultant lap time over all the mods you could possibly do to the car.

If you are dead set on suspension change i would go with H&R. they have a fixed rate coil over suspension developed specifically for the nurburgring. and if it works well at the ring, its probably not going to be too bad at just about any track out there.

[STi_traitor]

Originally Posted by karussell

Ian you should know exactly why as i have explained it to you before. Bluntly put you did not understand the suspension settings on your STI and i'm fairly confident that was a contributing factor to your "move" to a different car. At the apex of wipperman there is a nice bump and you probably bounced off your bumpstop causing instantaneous 100% traction front right wheel and 0 on your rear left causing you to spin. If you had stock suspension you probably would still be driving your STI.

Second point. Too many times i have met students obsessed with their suspension settings versus just concentrating on driving. i guarantee you will waste a lot of time changing bump rebound and rate and not show any improvement in your time. which brings me to my other point. worse case is you set the shocks too firm and you blow a seal on them ruining the shock on your first lap out and then you are really going to be pissed.


the ring is a very rough track. even the stiffest setting on edc i find you have less traction as the car hops around a lot. if you are worried about ultimate lap times you will crash the car. not a matter of if….its when and how serious. when you want to switch to triple adjustable suspension which isn't even legal for half the field in the VLN it should be because you have extracted every last inch of performance from your car and you are competing.

If its just for fun, then I say again, its a waste of money. but its your hard earned cash and you certainly earned it. enjoy in good health. that money would be better spent on tuition at scuderia hanseat. that school alone will probably net you the single biggest improvement in your driving technique and resultant lap time over all the mods you could possibly do to the car.

If you are dead set on suspension change i would go with H&R. they have a fixed rate coil over suspension developed specifically for the nurburgring. and if it works well at the ring, its probably not going to be too bad at just about any track out there.

I understand where you are coming from with the input above. On the other hand I have learned my lesson with the previous incident on my STi at the Wipperman. I have now put myself in the position of attempting as many air field courses as possible along with taking advice from a good friend that has been doing laps with me to help my over all performance. He is an outstanding driver and I take his advice very seriously as I would yours. As for the suspension, I am not caught up on my suspension. I am going to be using a legitimate setup this time given to me by knowledgeable people. I have yet to even touch my fastest STi time with the M3 because I am taking it slower and focusing more on driving the car before even really thinking mostly about time. I focus much more on my tire pressure this time compared to before and this also has made a huge difference in my performance and confidence. The suspension is a huge advantage to increasing the cars over all performance, would you not agree?

I appreciate your concern but I can assure you that I am not diving head first into this one. I am even working on a set of wheels to increase over all size but stick as close to OEM dimensions as possible. One thing I am not doing is buying a SC and going crazy.