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but it doesn't matter how they determine how many they need to keep. If you need a new engine and warrnety is still there. You will get a new engine, they will make one if need be. Making one would be very easy also for a huge company like BMW. |
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Rule of thumb is that manufacturer will produce and make parts available for 10 years after production has ended. Now they will not sell all of it right away so parts usually linger through warehouse and dealer stock years after that. Complete engine, I imagine soon after they stop production there will only be a handful left.
IMO if you drive your M3 (or any high perf cars) hard or has power adder plan on bearings and rings job as a preventive maintenance. You have to pay to play.You also have to stay on top of things. One big downside of not having an oil dipstick is that its that much harder to check your oil. Not only level but condition. I myself change oil after every track event. |
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06-08-2013, 12:53 AM | #93 |
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Precisely why I will never SC my engine, leave well enough alone. The car is magnificient in its stock form
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rip best of luck getting things fixed
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06-08-2013, 06:58 AM | #96 |
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To address some of the issues raised so far in this important thread:
1. Warranty will definitely not cover this. You will need a new motor and install and will need to pay out of pocket. Period. 2. Do not try to commit fraud. Fraud on this amount of money is just plain stupid. Can you see yourself digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole. 3. Adding forced induction on a motor not originally designed for it will increase the risk for failure. Period. Accept the risk if you want to go down that road. There are no shortcuts. If you want to do this right, build the motor, lower the compression, add a larger oil pan, larger oil cooler and larger radiator for proper heat management. 4. Understand the concept that no amount of power will ever be enough. The OP upgraded from 600 to 650hp. Why? Isn't 600hp enough? See how this goes. You body adapts physiologically to the forces put on it, and the car just doesn't seem as fast. People who drive a 150hp car will get into a bone stock M3 and say "holy shit!!!" Even if you owned a 1000hp car, if you drove it enough, it would stop feeling as fast as it did initially. Has anyone moved "down" to a car with less power? I have. In 2004, I sold my highly modded Audi S4 that had 500lb-ft of torque and bought a 350Z. For about the first month it felt slow. After that, it started to feel fast again to my brain. My body and brain actually "de-adapted" from the faster car. A stock M3 does 0-60 in the low to mid 4's. On an absolute level, this is fast. This was supercar speed not too long ago. The engine in NA form is a masterpiece IMO. Enjoy it for what it is. There are some great tweaks that you can do to extract a little more in NA form with little downside. Thats as far as I would go. If you want big power, start with a factory turbo. The next gen M3/4 will do well in this regard. Of course then people will complain that the engine doesn't have the same "character". And it won't.
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In that sense, if your goal is truly just to go fast, then a car like the GTR will suit your needs best. It is an instrument for speed and is purpose built for nothing else other than to go super fast in as safe and controlled manner as can be engineered.
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Dayuuuuuum. Sorry to hear this OP, hope you get it all worked out.
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Personally, I only mod the brakes on my M-cars. But that's NOT to say anyone is wrong who does more, as it's there car and they should do to it what makes them happy. But when it comes to engine modifications, caveat emptor is term worth bearing in mind. OP- hope the fix goes smoothly. *if this has already been answered, my apologies, but I'm not reading all 5 pages. Last edited by Carl L; 06-08-2013 at 12:27 PM.. Reason: typo on one word |
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i think this has been touched upon in this thread, but to be certain....do the 2013s have rod bearing issue addressed?
OP, i truly hope for the best outcome for you on this. whatever you decide to do. for someone who knows very little about engines, this thread has been an interesting read. |
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Might be canceling the 2013 order once you get the bill for the new engine. Will car insurance cover this if warranty does not?
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In the last 4 years BMW sold more than a million cars in the U.S. alone. And not all the members advertise their engine problems on here. Most people take their cars to the dealer for warranty work without discussing it here. And sometimes part of the so called goodwill gestures to fix a legimate work, they make you sign a release form not to discuss the problem on the foruns. |
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This is what a typical release form reads: General Release IN CONSIDERATION OF a one-time goodwill offer, BMW will provide xyz to ...the undersigned releases and fully discharges BMW of North America, LLC (“BMWNA”), BAYERISCHE MOTOREN WERKE AG (“BMW AG”) and each of their predecessors, successors, subsidiaries and affiliated entities, parents, partners, dealers, officers, directors, shareholders, agents, servants, employees, representatives, attorneys, heirs, successors and assigns, past and present, and each of them (hereinafter collectively referred to as the “Releasees”), from any and all claims, demands and causes of action of any and every kind and nature, including, without limitation, claims or fraud, negligent misrepresentation, non-discloser, fraudulent misrepresentation, negligence, personal injuries, product liability, breach damages, attorneys fees, damages, costs and expenses, whether known or unknown, suspected or unsuspected, which the undersigned now owns or holds or at any time heretofore has owned or held against the others arising out of, resulting from, or in any way related to the undersigned’s 2008 BMW M3, vehicle identification number…. The undersigned recognizes that in executing this General Release that this instrument shall be effective as a bar to each and every action, claim, demand or cause of action released hereby. No action taken by the Releasees, either previously or in connection with this Generation Release shall be deemed or construed to be an admission of the truth, falsity, fault or liability of the matter pertaining to any action, claim, demand, or cause of action referred to herein or relating to the subject matter of this General Release. The undersigned will keep confidential the existence and terms of this General Release. The undersigned agrees not to reveal the facts leading up to the terms or conditions of this General Release in any communication form including, but not limited to, word-of-mouth, print, broadcast or internet. |
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