Adjusting camber from -2.2 to -2.6: Need alignment?

disapr · 12-13-2011, 05:47 PM

My alignment is perfectly dialed in right now but I'd like to run just a bit more camber up front for my Pilot Cups.

I'm considering buying a camber tool and just dialing it in myself. Will this small of a change in camber impact the caster and/or toe in enough to affect the handling?

The most that I'd change it to is 2.8 but 2.6 will probably be enough.

Thanks

IND-Distribution · 12-13-2011, 05:53 PM

It is possible to increase camber without a major change in toe on a macphearson car like the E9x M3. Camber tools are easy to use so there's no reason not to do the job yourself.

elh0102 · 12-13-2011, 06:37 PM

What kind of camber tool are you considering? The factory provision for camber adjustment will not allow nearly the setting you desire, so I'm curious. Are you referring to a tool that merely measures camber, or camber plates that create an additional range of adjustment?

IND-Distribution · 12-13-2011, 07:19 PM

He has KW ClubSport coilovers which allow for camber adjustment via camber plates. He is referring to a camber gauge that allows you to measure camber.

M3SQRD · 12-13-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elh0102

What kind of camber tool are you considering? The factory provision for camber adjustment will not allow nearly the setting you desire, so I'm curious. Are you referring to a tool that merely measures camber, or camber plates that create an additional range of adjustment?

It sounds like he's planning on using a camber gauge/tool which attaches to the wheel.

disapr · 12-13-2011, 08:38 PM

Yes, something like this

http://www.longacreracing.com/catalo...d=1299&catid=5

M3SQRD · 12-13-2011, 09:23 PM

That type of camber gauge works extremely well plus you'll be able to measure front caster with it

dapopa9 · 12-13-2011, 09:24 PM

are these guages fairly simpple to use?

M3SQRD · 12-13-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dapopa9

are these guages fairly simpple to use?

Yes, they are very easy to use.

Do you have camber plates?

JAJ · 12-13-2011, 11:26 PM

The Clubsport camber plates are very repeatable, so mark where your settings are now (and think of them as "street" settings) and then make the adjustment to -2.6 for track use and mark the new position. The increased negative camber will give you a bit more toe-out. If you are able to switch the camber back and forth between track and street settings, then do so and don't worry about "fixing" the toe. More toe-out is good for track work, and it will go away when you switch back to street settings, giving you longer tire wear.

I had the two marks on my CS camber plates and just switched from street to track settings every time out. It takes about 15 minutes.

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elh0102 Captain 15 Rep 751 Posts Drives: 2009 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	What kind of camber tool are you considering? The factory provision for camber adjustment will not allow nearly the setting you desire, so I'm curious. Are you referring to a tool that merely measures camber, or camber plates that create an additional range of adjustment?
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IND-Distribution BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 9608 Rep 10,891 Posts Drives: G82 M4 / G87 M2 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	He has KW ClubSport coilovers which allow for camber adjustment via camber plates. He is referring to a camber gauge that allows you to measure camber. __________________ IND DISTRIBUTION \| 866-963-4520 • INSTAGRAM • YOUTUBE • FACEBOOK • FLICKR
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disapr drop a gear and... 79 Rep 967 Posts Drives: 2010 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (4)	Yes, something like this http://www.longacreracing.com/catalo...d=1299&catid=5 __________________ WTB - 2006/05 ZCP 6MT M3 w/ under 85k (Link to WTB)
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JAJ Captain 80 Rep 961 Posts Drives: 2014 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (4)	The Clubsport camber plates are very repeatable, so mark where your settings are now (and think of them as "street" settings) and then make the adjustment to -2.6 for track use and mark the new position. The increased negative camber will give you a bit more toe-out. If you are able to switch the camber back and forth between track and street settings, then do so and don't worry about "fixing" the toe. More toe-out is good for track work, and it will go away when you switch back to street settings, giving you longer tire wear. I had the two marks on my CS camber plates and just switched from street to track settings every time out. It takes about 15 minutes.
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