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View Poll Results: Purchase the E92 M3 in June or wait for the F82 M4? | |||
E92 M3 with V8 | 156 | 84.32% | |
F82 M4 with V6 twin turbo | 29 | 15.68% | |
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10-03-2011, 03:57 PM | #23 | ||
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I'm a bit confused about what you are saying about ED. Are you saying financially the discounts won't play that much affect unless I end up buying the car? And what do you mean about the 3 months? I don't mind waiting if thats what you are saying. My current 328 is amazing. The main reason I was thinking ED is because the great savings (so I might as well tour Europe too, never been). That's what I was thinking. If I save less than $2k over the 3 year period on a lease, then it is not worth it too me. 14% off is a lot if that number is precise. |
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I agree with you parham that the current M3 is almost perfect, so I suspect you would never regret picking one up.
I have the sneaking suspicion that the new M3/M4 will be even better than the current generation. However, cars at the end of their generation are the most tweaked, have had things fixed (e.g. DCT software) and new options added (e.g. competition package). That will always be the case. I'm sure I'll drool over the new one. However, I wouldn't personally want to pick it up soon after it's released. If you're going for a new coupe and at least one model year after its release, you're looking at 2015.
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So I have pretty much decided on doing a 3 year lease around May/June 2012 till 2015 (about a year or so after the next gen E92 M3 will be out? hopefully).
Now, is it financially worth doing ED on a lease? Approximately how much would I be potentially saving over the course of the lease if I decided not to buy the car at the end of the 3 year lease? To be honest, I think there will be a high probability that I would upgrade to the next gen M3. So let's account for me most likely not purchasing the car at the end of the 3 year lease. This car would be my daily driver; I don't need a strictly track only car, so power wise the new M3 would be fine. I just love the sound of the V8 and the ability of having the V8 engine. |
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10-03-2011, 06:00 PM | #30 | |
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No one knows yet, but it could very well be that the the M4 does not go on sale in the US until early 2015. It all depends on the timing of the F32 3 series which we still don't know. But just for comparison, the E46 M3 went on sale in the US in early 2001 and the E92 M3 went on sale in the US in early 2008. So, if the pattern continues, it will be early 2015 for the F32 M3. Also, just so you are aware, there may yet be an MY 2013 E92 M3. If there is, it will likely go on sale in July of next year. We should know by early next spring whether this will be the case or not. Given your planned purchase timeframe, I thought this might be of interest to you. |
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10-03-2011, 06:08 PM | #31 | |
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Anyway, I know no one knows for sure, but I am just asking for opinions based on what people think and on their past experience. Also, what is the MY 2013 E92 M3. I have seen MY somewhere else, but can't find it exactly. What does it stand for and what does it mean? |
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Production of MY 2012 E92 M3's stop in June of 2012. It's still unknown whether there will be a (likely short) production run of MY 2013 coupes. This thread contains the most info we have to date on that possibility, including posts from a couple of insiders (Scott26 & mapezzul). http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589067 It's still very much unsure though. If you want the condensed version, start from post 68. I'm actually quite interested myself, as if I could get the car later (i.e. a MY 2013 one), I could use my funds for something else I really would like to do first.
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10-03-2011, 06:47 PM | #33 | |
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You may be able to afford either, or may not make it much of a consideration in this particular deal, but... Money is always an issue.
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The only differences would be the way options are packaged or something small like BMW Apps was added recently. It is not going to be a major thing like LCI light change (although I really would love BMW to include the LED lights from the non-M E92 LCI on the M3 why isn't it even an option?) Right? |
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10-04-2011, 07:44 PM | #37 |
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Lol. That's what I was thinking of, but the cost is higher and I don't want a car for just for specs and racing. I love the E92's style and technology (speakers, iDrive, iPod integration etc.). I want a balance between luxury, design, and sport = E92 M3
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now let's say your ED car ends up being 7000 dollars cheaper than if you had bought it here (non-ED purchase). well since you're leasing you wouldn't realize that full 7000 dollar savings. you'd only be saving 40% of that 7000, or in other words 2800 dollars. then take into account the cost of your ED trip, the delay in getting the car, and the 1 month payment you'll have to make before you even receive the car and it's likely you won't be saving anything. you might even be losing money. if you end up negotiating an ED discount greater than that, that's another story ,you'll have to do the math on that. but i think the results will be about the same. the point being that unless you end up purchasing the ED car outright, you wont be saving the kind of money on ED with a lease that would make the trip worth it FINANCIALLY speaking. (of course there's value to the trip aside from the financial savings. i.e. memories, pictures, experiences etc etc). DISCLAIMER: the math is technically a little more complicated than what i've presented above as far as calculating actual cost/savings. but for the purposes of this excercise, it's a good indicator of whether ED is the way to go or not. hope that helps, - esquire
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Thanks for the help. That's exactly what I was understanding, just wanted confirmation. I think I will just wait toward the end of the E92 M3 production and go from there. If I do ED, I definitely want to buy the car (so perhaps I should go with next generation M3 b/c the E92 will age and have low resell value if I decide to get the next gen M3 and sell the E92). |
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What are your thoughts on me buying my current 328 at the end of it's lease and just waiting a couple years more for the next gen M3?
I would buy the next gen M3 with ED if at all. I have had my coupe since about February 2011 and by the time the second or third year next gen M3 comes out in the USA it will be about 2016? here is some info on my car... 328i coupé alpine white on coral red M-Sport with the 193m wheels + paddle shifters Navigation Convenience Package Premium Package Harman Kardon speakers Heated seats Smartphone Integration matte black grille m3 style lip spoiler tints 35% clear reflectors white side lights other minor stuff, nothing major, just cosmetics really So thoughts on ^^^ ? EDIT: it's honestly perfectly equipped and i love it |
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I would get the E92. Personally, I believe there is a good chance you might not enjoy the turbo experience. At least then you will still have your minty E9x to fall back on. You can always sell the E92 as well. It won't take as much of a hit as a lot of people are predicting. Yeah you're going to lose a bit, but not as much as you'd lose by not driving one of these cars from now until then!
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There is a lot of factors that play in for the cars resale value. For example if it is the last m3 coupe that will make it's resale value go up. It being the first and last v8 engine would make the the resale value go up. Now don't get me wrong you will still take a hit but not as bad as everyone thinks. Also If you do get the e92 m3 by the time the f82 has it's kinks fixed your e92 will be just be finishing it's financing terms, which means you sell it, and use that money to put a down payment on the new f82.
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I would definitely go with a 3 year lease on the E92 M3 I'm doing just that... If I don't like the next m3/4 as much then I'll buy the car at the end of the 3 years. Experience the last ///M V8 blah blah it's all true. DO IT!
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