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07-27-2011, 03:37 PM | #155 |
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IS the black series suspension fully adjustable?
Does it have the cooling components to deal with 130-140 degree track temps or 113 degree ambient at potentially low speeds and high rpms without popping? Are it's lines a material that won't expand/deform under hot use? if not..it's not a track car....(among other possible reasons) |
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You act like the car is built using legos. Last edited by Mprofiler; 07-27-2011 at 04:03 PM.. |
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07-27-2011, 04:07 PM | #157 |
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07-27-2011, 04:11 PM | #159 |
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I don't consider it a track car because it was designed as a street car first with many concessions for street use and comfort. I wouldn't consider it for repeated track duty. That's really it. Again, you don't have to agree. Why is that so difficult for you. If it makes you feel better, you win.
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07-27-2011, 04:16 PM | #162 | |
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I have said many times weight is not the only issue, but it certainly is one for me. Yeah, I still maintain that premise. If it was designed as a track car first it wouldn't weigh so much for one. Again, all good. I'm going to go hit the streets for a bit in my gt3, meet a friend for a Heineken and enjoy the beautiful weather here. Hope you have a wonderful day as well. |
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The car weighing 3750lbs is one thing, but saying that it won't hold up with extended track usage due its weight is another. Quote:
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07-27-2011, 04:28 PM | #165 | |
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by adjustable i mean a little more than "putting it into a sport mode" and it lowering a couple mm..I mean adjusting the camber caster and toe....as you would on a track car, to suit the track..... Overheating might not cause engine failure, but it's a sure sign the car wasn't ready for the track.... I don't act like the car is built of lego's..I act like the car was piecemeal, which it was. Not many if any piecemeal cars are track ready. |
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07-27-2011, 04:38 PM | #166 | |
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"The AMG sports suspension is a sophisticated new development. Conceived as a coil-over suspension -- as is the norm in motorsport and a typical feature of Black Series models" Piecemeal from better parts is somehow bad? Last edited by Mprofiler; 07-27-2011 at 05:03 PM.. |
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and i'm all for piecemealing a FEW parts...but the majority of this car is borrowed...and by majority i mean a good 80+% of it sheetmetal aside. |
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07-27-2011, 05:05 PM | #168 | |
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From the C63BS: "The AMG sports suspension is a sophisticated new development. Conceived as a coil-over suspension -- as is the norm in motorsport and a typical feature of Black Series models" Happy? I highly doubt you have been on the track with a BS so I wouldn't say one should opt out of it. Umm, so what's the big deal exactly if parts are improved and borrowed from other BS and the SLS? Last edited by Mprofiler; 07-27-2011 at 05:10 PM.. |
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07-27-2011, 05:26 PM | #169 | |
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I am not denying anything I said. And, I am not going to play this like politics. What I said is what I mean, no denying anything I said. You might want to stop trying to manipulate my words. I have already spent too much time on this topic. Read what I posted if you have any questions. |
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07-27-2011, 07:08 PM | #171 |
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Love it, if I was in the market for a replacement to my M3, I'd highly, highly consider this.
Any more news on pricing? I imagine it will be at least $90-100k, track package included. |
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A fully loaded C63 will run you 81 and change... So i doubt it |
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07-27-2011, 10:01 PM | #173 | |
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I guess you can not comprehend simple reading. Yes, weight was/is my point, amongst others as I have previously pointed out. I.E. if MB was concerned about this car being a track car then they would have addressed the weight more and creature comforts less. There is no change in my beliefs. You can take anything out of context or select specific posts to attain your desired goal. Because I posted one belief in one post and another later does not mean I am making stuff up which is exactly what you are accusing me of. Call me defensive or whatever you like. You simply like the argument for the sake of it not the exchange of opinions. Last edited by devo; 07-27-2011 at 10:17 PM.. |
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07-27-2011, 10:07 PM | #174 |
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My guess will be about 90-95k for the base. The regular c63 coupe in the U.S. costs about 61k while in Germany it costs around 73k euros. The C63BS costs about 115k euros so that's about a 36-37% mark up over the c63 coupe.
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As well as other similar comments, therefore I didn't make up anything. Quote:
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07-27-2011, 10:19 PM | #176 | |
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Yes, you are accusing me of changing my opinion about the weight. I have not. I have other reasons why I believe this car was manufactured as a street car first and track car second. I am obviously been unable to convey my beliefs to you as you want to turn anything I say into your belief that I am now making stuff up. You can't even stay on topic. Just so we are clear: I STILL BELIEVE ALL THAT I HAVE PREVIOUSLY POSTED, WEIGHT BEING A BIG PART OF THE ISSUE. I don't deny what you have highlighted above, so again WTF is your point? Last edited by devo; 07-27-2011 at 10:33 PM.. |
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