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Never had a problem with the torque of the m3 with dct. As someone said its hard enough to keep traction as it is. I do a lot of city driving and never had a problem, and I don't feel like I have to rev the hell out of it to get it moving.
I had a 335i and that engine was falling on its face very quickly and wasnt much fun to drive. |
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12-30-2012, 09:53 PM | #69 |
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I had a supercharged e46 m3. Same type of kit, same concept.
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Well you must have not have tracked it that much. That's where you really feel the drawbacks of a supercharger.
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Interesting points of view here, with torque really seeming to be the one major (while polarizing) issue. Great discussion so far!
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12-31-2012, 01:37 PM | #73 | |
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I'm pretty sure the next M3 turbo engine will not live to the standards set already by the existing V8.
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Yes exactly. The current engine is a gem, something very special. The upcoming line of m cars with have the run of the mill 4, 6, and 8 cylinder FI engines with few revisions and a more boost. Nothing special about low revving FI motors.
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If they really wanted to keep the "gem" they could've saved a lot of money by just adding direct injection. Exactly what gm is doing with there ls3....
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It's not about what BMW engineers can or cannot do.....it's about what they WANT to do for the M brand. And for the M brand, they want to have high revving linear engines. I do agree with you on one thing - M3 is not a sports car.....it's a sports sedan/coupe with many of the fantastic characteristics of a single seat, open wheel, formula race car. Look at the history of the M cars and you'll see that BMW has not strayed much from their original intention. |
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So all of a sudden we must track the car to enjoy it fully??? I dont get this at all..... If I am buying a performance car... I want it to perform at a stop light as well. C63 and E63 do smoke the crap out of our cars in conditions that most people drive them at 97% of the time.
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I was talking about the downside of superchargers at the track before to make a point that more power isn't always a good thing if it isn't done the right way.
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I had the N54, nothing to write home about. It was enough one test drive of the S65 and I couldn't dump faster the N54
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Well if its going in the same direction as the f10 m5 then expect a bigger car with FI and fake engine noise through the speakers.
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are you sure, not bc M3 is THE BEST car ever, 99.9% of m owner think so.
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