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01-11-2014, 11:52 AM | #45 | |
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My e63 m6 on rs3's and Coilovers was a pig and not enjoyable in the least on track. That weighed 3900 lbs. let's see what progress does...
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01-11-2014, 05:05 PM | #48 |
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It's like a snazzy looking Genesis Coupe! Grill is pretty bad, I mean that much 'black mesh plastic' is just a bad contrast idea. I guess if the car were black, then it would all blend in and be hidden a bit.
Re: specs, I like that it will be NA and 480hp! Sweet. Don't like it has a torque converter auto - lame. Interior is meh, not bad, but nothing wow. The LF-A is the only Lexus sports car that showed promise for Lexus's future. That car was a masterpiece competing with the very best of its class. It's like the guy / team who made the LF-A quit Lexus, and some idiots are picking up the pieces - the RC-F could of easily become a toned down version of the LF-A, and had a better chance competing in the segment - instead we get this recycled shizzz... dude... |
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01-17-2014, 11:32 AM | #51 |
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The car looks good except for that front end! The detached swoosh LEDs from the headlights and that grill is just ugly.
Notice they picked a dark blue color so you don't notice the detached LEDs as much. In white, it will be very obvious and ugly.
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01-20-2014, 01:22 PM | #52 | |
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These times were not back to back times but more of a collection of times from the different track days. What you or the mag fails to note is that the e60 m5 times are in DAMP conditions. Drivers can also be different. So many variables. So dont just spit out garbage from magazine articles. |
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01-20-2014, 03:29 PM | #54 | |
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I mean yes a sweeping fast track of course big power is going to win. Now take it to a tighter more technical course. What do these ppl think is going to happen?? Lighter more nimbler car will have better times. Come on now. Doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. |
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01-25-2014, 10:39 AM | #55 |
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Saw it at the Detroit show, I love the profile and the rear despite those tacky tail pipes, but that big mouth nose is just gross.
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I'm thinking with full options, an M4 will be 3,430 at most, sunroof (est 50lbs), CCB (-18lbs per BMW execs), DCT (54lbs est. based on current E9x figures), HK sound (10lbs est based on standard vs. enhanced system on E9x), other misc options (10lbs), + full fluids (18lbs). Based on the e9x, I don't see the 18 vs 19" wheel would effecting curb weight.
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01-27-2014, 09:00 PM | #57 | |
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lets say the RF-C will all "fluids" etc is exactly 3,900 and the M4 say its 3,500 like you say. Its still 400 pounds AND don't forget how much better the M transmission will be The M4 will outperform that new lexus. I'll take that bet. |
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01-27-2014, 11:46 PM | #58 |
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I am glad Lexus is keeping it N/A. Personally I will never own another M car seeing where BMW is going with it's F/I.
My next car will be among GT3, C63 507 or RF-C or keep my E90 M.
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3550/450 = 7.9 lb/hp 3850/480 = 8.0 lb/hp That is less than a 2% difference. The 300 lb will give the M4 some significant handling and braking advantages. My prediction is that the cars will be basically a drivers race in a straight line. However, pretty well all of the journalists test metrics will have the M4 edging out the RC-F. The margin of victory will be wider on anything twisty.
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But seriously, I totally believe the weight announced by BMW since their new philosophy of construction is all about cutting weight! Also I don't think this would be a drivers race between the two(if the new RC-F really weight around 3900lbs) simply because I think the S55 wil have alsmost the same amount of peak power as the Lexus V8 but will have a lot more power under the curve and most importantly A LOT less weight to carry! With the announced weight of the RC-F I think the car will be a closer race to a DCT e9x M3! p.s. Can't wait to see those cars in action!! Last edited by Alex07M3; 01-28-2014 at 03:31 PM.. |
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That looks like a touchpad on the armrest! Cool beans!
You can really see how the LFA rubbed off on the F....gauge cluster is NICE. Edit: Why yes, it is a touchpad. http://blog.caranddriver.com/2015-le...oit-auto-show/ Other interesting notes from that article: Quote:
+1 Bravo to Toyota for carrying on their tradition of providing PORT INJECTION as well as direct injection. BMW, are you paying attention? Last edited by whats77inaname; 01-28-2014 at 04:06 PM.. |
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I'm sure the M4 will be underrated - that I don't doubt. I'm also disappointed to find out that earlier reports of 480 hp has now become "at least 450". But, the new RC-F will handily beat any stock E9X M3 since the revised IS-F and E9XM3 became a dead heat after a few suspension revisions.
Right now, we are just speculating. Nobody knows the exact specs and how the cars drive. I'm not in the market for a new car anyways. I'm just enjoying all the different performance cars flooding the market. Even though the RC-F can't be tuned or FI, at least one thing I know is that they probably left 50+ hp in the restrictive cats and exhaust. My 6 year old IS-F has just headers and exhaust and is already around 470 crank. BTW, for all of you guys that always say that the 8 speed auto sucks, probably haven't ever driven the IS-F 8 speed in manual mode. Under manual mode, you really can't tell the difference between PDK, DCT, 8 speed auto. I can't tell and it upshifts and downshifts almost the moment I flip the paddle. So, what's all the negativity about the tranny? So, perhaps the RC-F will be slower but if it wins comparos based on steering, chassis, fun-to-drive, etc.. It'll just be like the old days but reversed when the IS350 handily beat the 330i (a couple of years before the 335 came out). |
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Dont forget the ferocious RS5. That thing is nasty as nasty gets despite the weight. I'll never track a $75k car so weight is irrelevant to me.
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