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01-19-2009, 04:55 PM | #45 |
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Very cool OEM upgrage solution.
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No hurry from my part, as I want to really know how the OEM volume is actually handled by it. |
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"If the OEM source has its own EQ, it can change according to the volume level set by the user. It is important, particularly if you use the Software function "OEM De-EQ" (cut off the source EQ) do not move the volume of the source, in order to not change the timbre of the system." So maybe in your case, you could just set all the OEM EQ to flat (which you are probably doing now with your DQXS) and set the speed based volume control to min. Then the OEM volume control should have very little effect, if any, on the response of the system and you can use that as the master volume instead of the DRC controller for the BitOne.
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Therefore it seems that the BitOne also requires a set volume level all the time to not lose the calibration (the "OEM De-EQ"), the same way the Alpine PX-H650 and -to a lesser extent- the Cleansweep requires the OEM volume to be set at a certain level and instead use its Master Volume for system volume changes. The problem is, there is no way of setting the OEM volume all the time to the exact same level in our cars, as it resets to a low level every time the car is turned off and some 10 minutes are passed. And worse, there is no OEM volume level indicator anywhere for at least go back to that particular OEM volume level. So setting the OEM volume to the same level all the time for the processing to be effective is virtually impossible in our cars... unless a calibration set up have to be performed every time the car is started. Yeah, right... I hope that there is some "intentional" tradeoff in the BitOne as it is in the Cleansweep, so that way the Master Volume can be set to some 75% level and allow the use of the OEM volume without losing the calibration. Some hiss at low volume and slight changes in the calibration at high volumes (the damn non-defeatable speed-dependent EQ in our cars) can be expected with this mode but so far with my Cleansweep none of those trade off are deal breakers at all. |
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I was impressed the first time that I listened to it without too much adjustment from the DQXS. |
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01-19-2009, 07:33 PM | #52 | |
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I got an answer from the Audioson people about the OEM volume settings (you were correct, HIS4):
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01-20-2009, 04:24 AM | #53 |
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Cool. Group buy?
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GB? Count me in. It would be a much cleaner install instead of having the JL CS and the AC DQ7
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Let's see...
The only part that I think that this processor is lacking is actually the max low level output levels: 4V RMS. Although it will match perfectly with the PDX max inputs, the Cleansweep outputs a max of 8V RMS (non adjustable) and the DQXS a max of 7.5V RMS (fully adjustable). Perhaps the overall difference is academic as the signal to noise ratio are in the 100dB+ range on all of them, but I like to have enough "headroom" in the signal level to manually take care of any noises/hiss that might show up after tuning. |
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I'm definitely in for a group buy...
I'm looking at the elites here for the lead.
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01-20-2009, 02:39 PM | #57 |
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Uh oh. Look what I started! It was meant as a joke. Realistically, a group buy for that item wouldn't happen any time soon because demand is very high, supply is very low, and early production bugs are still being worked out. But we can all dream I guess.
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Ha... yes, you did start wheels turning. But yeah, might as well wait for some new technology if its getting its bugs worked out.
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Technic,
So what are the downsides to your install? I want to do an install that once done I can forget about it, bang MP3s on the hard drive and crank up the volume through the steering wheel controls - is that possible with you setup? Thanks, Neil. |
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The only downside of my setup is that it is not cheap. |
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ok cool- Thanks for the info.
I've seen a lot of BMW installs over the years where there is always some "issue" that prevents it from looking like it was done right. Like can't turn bass to high or hiss or other shit like that. One question given the choice, if you were ordering the car from new, what audio system would you start with? I'm going to indy but is it easier to go with Logic7 ? (you can spec this on the M3 in UK). Neil. |
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I just don't see/hear the value or the performance advantage of the Individual Audio over the Logic7. BMW failed in making the Individual Audio a real leap over the Logic7 or even the HiFi system for the amount of money that they ask for, IMO. I just don't... |
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Awesome! Subscribed!
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thanks. I've head L7, hopefully will hear the indy audio soon. I'll go for one of them as if I ever sell this car on I think better to have one of them speced.
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I know they are different cars but I have the L7 in the M3 and have heard the Indiviual setup in the X6. I prefer the L7 and really doubt the other is worth what is approaching double the money.
Also after constant tweaking the setup I have ended up with the Fadar 3 clicks forward and in Concert mode. If anyone is interested I will post the Bass/Treble and Equalizer settings as well. |
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yes please dood.
Cheers, Neil. |
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