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06-02-2009, 10:19 PM | #23 | |
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06-02-2009, 10:37 PM | #24 |
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I was going to try out the RE11s but they only had 265/35/19 and 305/30/19 in the wide width 19" range. I have 10.5" rear wheels now which need at least 285 or 295. 305 could potentially rub based on other members' experience. So I went back to the PS2, which costed an arm and a leg. Hopefully Bridgestone will come out with more sizes.
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06-02-2009, 11:18 PM | #27 |
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4lbs/corner in the tire is the worst possible place for it. Hard to beat the PS2 all around (wet/dry/noise/ride) unless you spend time at the track (and in that case, you're better off with dedicated track wheels/tires anyways).
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06-03-2009, 12:33 AM | #28 | |
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Ben: Are the weights correct that the RE-11 in this size range is a full 4 lb heavier than the PS2? That is over 15% which seems really like a lot. |
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06-03-2009, 09:29 PM | #29 |
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Just when i thought that htis was the tire for me, I read the following review on tire rack:
"...The RE-11 tire is non-directional, it does not have a rotational arrow. Although it is oriented (outside, inside). So on the right side of the car, the pattern on the tire aims up and on the left side of the car, the pattern on the tire aims down. It looks a little funny, like if mounted backwards. Although the outside and inside mount settings are respected...." This seems kind of strange to me? I'm pretty anal about symmetry. thoughts on this? This is just a part of the review- the full review can be found here: http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surve...D635WR9RE11XL# |
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06-03-2009, 11:01 PM | #31 | |
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I just mounted a set of RE11s today. Just looking at the RE11s compared to the PS2s you can see that the RE11s have a much more square side wall, which helps with turn-in and feel. The tread blocks are also larger on the RE11s vs the PS2s. The side walls on the RE11s are noticeably stiffer than on the PS2s (yes this means they feel a bit more harsh over bumps).
I agree that the PS2 is probably a better all around tire for wet/dry/comfort/..., but I really don't care about wet performance in socal and $100 more per tire is just not worth it to me for a tire with less dry performance. Quote:
On directional tires the tread pattern is designed to rotate in a specific direction (mostly for water evacuation) and there are arrows pointing which direction the tire should rotate. On asymmetrical tires the tread pattern is designed to rotate in either direction, but the outside and inside edges of the tire have different tread patterns.
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06-03-2009, 11:35 PM | #33 |
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Yes I will. I had RE01Rs on my Cayman S as well and those were quite an improvement over the PS2s. I'll be setting up an autox in a couple weeks, will do a few runs with the E90 and will report back.
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06-04-2009, 12:36 AM | #34 | |
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I did notice that they had fewer than 9 so tirerack might have been sold out. |
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06-04-2009, 02:28 AM | #35 | |
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I don't see how you can expect to get any useful data back by asking for anecdotal opinions on specific tyres when they are not being compared in any meaningfull way. Don't you need an M3 testing the selected tyres with the same level of scrubbed tread on the same surface and measure wet/dry braking distances, steady cornering g etc?
Its rare that someone who has researched the tyre choices for his car and invested his own money is then going to admit that he made a stupid choice and the tyres he bought were rubbish. There was an endless debate about tyres for the E46 M3 where (at least in the UK) the OEM Michelin was always touted as being far superior to the OEM Continental yet back to back tyre tests showed the Continental as having a slight edge...but once the consensus was that the Michelin PS2 was best, few people were prepared to say otherwise. |
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06-04-2009, 09:37 AM | #38 | |
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I know this is slightly OT, but you still have stock 19s right? I ask because you are talking about getting 285 on the rear, so my question, one I have had for a while is BMW places 265 PS2 on the rear and 245 on the front, but can you increase that? Will bigger tires not be stretched enough and thus result in a "soft pillow" affect on the edge of the tire? Cheers, e46e92
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I've tried all three on the list... The Michelin PS2 is great, don't get me wrong, but I still believe doesn't have the same grip levels in the DRY as the RE-11. I'm more oriented to a super sticky tire rather than the best treadware possible (which is still pretty low in the other tires as well). But the Pirelli PZero Rosso and the Pirelli PZero Nero's just didn't really make me "happy" I guess when I had them.
It's all a matter of opinion really on this one, but in my mind, the Re-11 is an awesome tire worth looking into if you don't mind having a tire that doesn't last super long. |
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06-04-2009, 06:04 PM | #44 |
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Thanks for the perspective. Give a lot more with to your earlier recommendation.
My only comment is that the Pirelli Rosso and Nero are not the same as the PZero "hero" which is a lot better than the two you mentioned. Per my earlier post, see below the rosso is dead last in the rankings |
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