Jerky DCT, DSC malfuction, Engine malfuction and then a Limp

Bluesummer · 03-12-2010, 06:19 PM

It was a perfect afternoon and I was on my way to pick up a copy of FF XIII. Just as I pulled into bestbuy's parking lot, I noticed an unusual jerky gear change from the DCT (mind you the car is flashed according to SIB280708 last June). Didn't really mind it and kept driving toward a small intersection with stop signs and an incline. I fully stopped the car and gave it a little gas when it was my term to move but I soon notice the hill assist was completely gone and I had to give a little bit more gas than I usually do to prevent rolling further back or possibly stall. Got out of the intersection, I was scratching on my head and the next thing i found out is my iDrive telling me DSC malfunction, Engine malfunction and of course a limp mode (see pics below)

could this be the idle valve cause that's the only known issue that has not happened on my car...

All the above incidents happened in a parking lot, hence, really slow speed.

powertrip · 03-12-2010, 06:25 PM

Those syptoms fall right in line with the idle control valvle. Mine went bad at 12000 miles, so that is a definite possibility.

Bluesummer · 03-12-2010, 09:19 PM

just dropped the car off at the dealership. DCT jerked like a mofo in the traffic and hesitated both down/up shift in manual mode

Cab5er · 03-12-2010, 10:21 PM

Lame. Good luck man.

E90SLAM · 03-13-2010, 02:25 AM

damn...the variable red line went all the way down to 5k rpm

gr8000 · 03-13-2010, 10:40 AM

typical idle valve symptoms...

but look at the bright side: better that you got it now instead when out of warranty!

Race_Doc11 · 03-13-2010, 10:55 AM

+1 Got it at 5000 miles and since they fixed it runs fine...one thing!! they are going to test drive it for 50 miles according to BMW

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Originally Posted by gr8000

typical idle valve symptoms...

but look at the bright side: better that you got it now instead when out of warranty!

Bluesummer · 03-13-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by racedoc11

+1 Got it at 5000 miles and since they fixed it runs fine...one thing!! they are going to test drive it for 50 miles according to BMW

i hate that every time i had to refill the gas on my loaner but they never compensate the gas they use on test driving the car

I should've just turned the car in with an empty tank

gr8000 · 03-14-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by racedoc11

+1 Got it at 5000 miles and since they fixed it runs fine...one thing!! they are going to test drive it for 50 miles according to BMW

that will be a joy ride more than anything else I believe!!

sehrgut · 03-14-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by racedoc11

+1 Got it at 5000 miles and since they fixed it runs fine...one thing!! they are going to test drive it for 50 miles according to BMW

Is that mandatory really? Can't you do the 50 miles of driving and check if everything is back to normal?

STALKER · 07-14-2010, 07:46 PM

I got these exact same errors today.
I was already at the dealer though, so luckily I just left the car there.

I hope its just the idle control valve.
I have Dinan software and Akra full exhaust. My dealer is a Dinan dealer also, so hopefully they don't try to blame it on the software or exhaust.

M3Blurr · 07-14-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

I got these exact same errors today.
I was already at the dealer though, so luckily I just left the car there.

I hope its just the idle control valve.
I have Dinan software and Akra full exhaust. My dealer is a Dinan dealer also, so hopefully they don't try to blame it on the software or exhaust.

I hope all works out in your favor. But don't they (whatever powers that be) have to prove it (that your Dinan has anything to do with it, beyond a reasonable doubt?)?

I only ask because I know that Steve’s stuff doesn’t come cheap, and since I haven’t had much to do with the “aftermarket” in a decade, I was curious.

Again, best of luck.

STALKER · 07-14-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Blurr

I hope all works out in your favor. But don't they (whatever powers that be) have to prove it (that your Dinan has anything to do with it, beyond a reasonable doubt?)?

I only ask because I know that Steve’s stuff doesn’t come cheap, and since I haven’t had much to do with the “aftermarket” in a decade, I was curious.

Again, best of luck.

Ya they do. Plus if they can prove its my software, Dinan warranty should kick in.
Im guessing its the idle control valve though.
I have had the Dinan software in the car for the last 2500KMs though with zero issues.

I should mention that I have a 6spd though.

Dice13 · 07-14-2010, 08:29 PM

I am looking at a 2011,are there still all these problems with. DCT. Sure don't need a 80 k car that don't work like a champ. It even seemed BMW did not care about fixing it.

haze gray · 07-14-2010, 08:40 PM

Buy the 2011. These problems are sporadic and not endemic to the car. BMW will stand behind your car. High performance cars are also high strung.

Dice13 · 07-14-2010, 08:54 PM

That make me feel better. I just hope tranny shifts like the dealers did. As long as BMW stands behind what they sell I guess I will be fine.

Mimmer · 07-15-2010, 01:37 AM

had this issues at 24000 miles.. sucked my engine was shaking it seemed like. but was still drivable. i cant remember wat it was exactly but hey had put 20 miles on my car..
havent happend again but only at 28000 now so hope for the best cause they had the car for about 3 days. thank godness for the warranty! this my first bmw and i dunnoo about getting another, ive had soo many issues with my car....

ooowowizstev · 07-15-2010, 02:21 AM

Have had no issues yet, only 17k miles though. Keeping my fingers crossed, don't want her to be stuck at the dealership.

Greeney · 07-15-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by haze gray

Buy the 2011. These problems are sporadic and not endemic to the car. BMW will stand behind your car. High performance cars are also high strung.

Ha, while yes it isnt endemic to the car asking BMW to stand behind their product is asking a lot... Atleast for me.

Mimmer · 07-21-2010, 06:13 PM

i dont think my dealer stands behind theres .... : / maybe ill try another one hopefully there not all the same..

SHADY1 · 07-21-2010, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STALKER

I got these exact same errors today.
I was already at the dealer though, so luckily I just left the car there.

I hope its just the idle control valve.
I have Dinan software and Akra full exhaust. My dealer is a Dinan dealer also, so hopefully they don't try to blame it on the software or exhaust.

Good luck getting your M3 fixed plus its tuned

oh boy I hope it don't get ugly for you keep us posted, I just had a problem with my 2008 6MT M3 going in limp mode a few weeks ago and it was because the #7 valve spring came off

. My M3 has 41,000+ miles. I was lucky it did no damage to the engine

and it was covered under warranty, they started not to at first and said I had a few over revs but they changed their mind

. But all did not work out good needless to say because the Stealership damaged the passenger side door on my M3

they sent it to a body shop and repainted and fixed it

. I been in a military school for a month during the time my M3 was being fixed and damaged by the stealership. I go back home this weekend and finally get to see if my M3 is still good as new or not

heads will roll if it is not

Sorry for the

Bluesummer good luck on getting your M3 fixed

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Dice13 Captain 177 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I am looking at a 2011,are there still all these problems with. DCT. Sure don't need a 80 k car that don't work like a champ. It even seemed BMW did not care about fixing it.
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haze gray Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 264 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Coupe / 2011 X5 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Virginia iTrader: (0)	Buy the 2011. These problems are sporadic and not endemic to the car. BMW will stand behind your car. High performance cars are also high strung.
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Dice13 Captain 177 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	That make me feel better. I just hope tranny shifts like the dealers did. As long as BMW stands behind what they sell I guess I will be fine.
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Mimmer Lieutenant 70 Rep 418 Posts Drives: E92 13' Join Date: May 2010 Location: WA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 e92 m3 [0.00]	had this issues at 24000 miles.. sucked my engine was shaking it seemed like. but was still drivable. i cant remember wat it was exactly but hey had put 20 miles on my car.. havent happend again but only at 28000 now so hope for the best cause they had the car for about 3 days. thank godness for the warranty! this my first bmw and i dunnoo about getting another, ive had soo many issues with my car....
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Mimmer Lieutenant 70 Rep 418 Posts Drives: E92 13' Join Date: May 2010 Location: WA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 e92 m3 [0.00]	i dont think my dealer stands behind theres .... : / maybe ill try another one hopefully there not all the same..
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