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For the price that VW would charge for a R45, I'd be hard-pressed not to take a 335i, or an Evo. And I'm not the 335i's biggest defender (ask Driver72 )
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Personally if this R45 was priced at $45k and was 360-390 hp as they are stating, I'd take it over the 335i. If it's transmission is an upgraded version of the DSG too and could take extra power, that R45 would be a tune away from 450+ crank hp and would be a total blast. |
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04-18-2009, 04:51 PM | #27 |
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wow you guys are pretty harsh i own a R32 (MK4) with HPA turbo setup and i honestly think it will hold its own no problems against an M3 e46 0r e9x. yes its
still just a golf, but in the same respect the M3 is just a 3 series. |
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04-19-2009, 12:24 PM | #30 |
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What's this, we have a lot of people praising the Golf and in so doing the VAG brand but none of the regular BMW fanboy complaining, this only happens when I make such comments.
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04-19-2009, 03:51 PM | #32 |
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Agreed. Fun car but not special and too many boy racers.
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For what it was ($20-22k car) it was a beast at the time. But even when it came out I think the Neon platform was already like 8 years old. Surely wasn't bad, per se, just not my cup of tea. Had I been 18-22 when it came out, and was in the market for a car in that price range, I'd of probably got one. |
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The GTI was pretty close to hopeless on track until I had Dick Shine Racing bolt in their "Real Street" suspension package. The car looked weird with the front end raised about an inch and a half* and the rear down a half (like a dog begging for food), but it went around corners like a slot car. With APR chip and some Florida outfit's three inch turbo-back with 400-count cat, I'd run with E36 M3s all day long, cutting consistent 1:25s at NHMS (using both north and south chicanes). Shine advised me to disconnect the front antiroll bar for track work, and that, along with TWO antiroll bars in the rear (stock one left untouched plus a fatter one installed) meant I could get the car to rotate fairly easily. With 100 octane at Lime Rock, those same E36s would have trouble staying with the little red hatchback. With all four roaring (yet economical) cylinders firing, I could stay with them on the straights and pull away in the twisties. The weak point was the brakes. Even with cryo front rotors and Hawk Blues, the car was outrunning it's ability to stop. Looking at the $6K required to upgrade (brakes plus three sets of wheels and tires), I opted for a trade on the SRT4. With just pads and sneakers, that car would consistently lap NHMS in the 1:23s (again using both chicanes), and never needed a thing. Fun and fast - especially off the corners, when that blast of torque would get you going with real gusto. Bruce *The problem with those cars was that the unusual front end geometry would drop the roll center below ground level if you lowered the car, thus requiring very stiff springs to counteract excessive body roll. The car might look tough, but bad news for the ride vs handling trade off. Shine's solution didn't look elegant, but got the job done. |
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Click on the link Radiation Joe posted in this thread (top of page 2) to see a worked up R32 chasing a GT3:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ht=golf&page=2
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Come on guys let's not get to crazy, the r32 is definitely a special car. I believe that it's predecessor will be one as well but I would love to see a six speed manual option instead of just dsg.
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M3 contender or not, I am sure it will be a blast to drive!
I guess it just wont come with a BMW fanboy jacket which might be a deal breaker for some |
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I agree, I like cars that perform very well, but, certian things appeal to different people.
1. certain driving characteristics of a car 2. design 3. power delivery 4. price 5. luxury 6. power and luxury 7. pure performance. 8. just due to the name just to name a few reasons whey people drive or buy what they have. |
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