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01-16-2024, 12:19 AM | #1 |
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Questions for M3 owners who go to Costco for tires
After months of waffling I bought my Michelin PS4S, and I used Costco to do it, before the CCA and Hagerty discounts expired last month. It totaled $300 off and brought it very close to what I would have paid for the Indy 500 tires that I originally wanted. Fantastic deal.
I have my tire install scheduled a few days from now. Do these guys have the proper pucks or spacers to lift the car without destroying the jacking points? If not, then I'm going to rush order a set from one of the sponsors. Any special instructions I should give them? Besides be careful with my irreplaceable car? Pay attention to the mounting direction of the tires? Watch the torque on the lug nuts and don't you dare use an air gun to tighten them? Is there a special instruction for balancing? I don't know much about balancing so I just go by what is the latest info I read on our forums. Years ago in my E36 days everyone on Roadfly was told to match mount the tires. When I moved to the E46 I was told ask for road force balancing. When my wife got her M a few years ago I was told "get both". The tire tech actually got pissed when I said that and told me "pick one! Do you want road force? Or do you want match mounting?" I don't remember how that worked out. In summary: I'm going to Costco, teach me how to handle that so it's as painless as possible for me and my car comes out unscathed. Non-scathed. A complete lack of scathed. Thanks.
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whats the CCA and hagerty discount? PS4 to Indy 500 price difference is like 400-500 so thats impressive. I wanted to get PS4S from costco but the two stores I went to seemed like they just didn't want to bother with my brand new set of ZCP wheels. Basically told me to go to discount tire if I want to walk away with no scratches on my wheels... and so I did ! If you care about your wheels then you better bring this up to them.
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I know what you're talking about with the wheels. Years ago a BMW dealer wrecked the Double Spoke II wheels on my E36 M3, and a friend who worked at Sam's Club told me what happened. He said that particular dealer didn't mount their own tires, they pulled the wheels and sent them out. The contract shop didn't use the right adapter on their tire machine and it gouged up the bead on all four wheels. The machines use either a steel tool or a steel tool with a teflon or nylon cover to break the bead on tires and seat the new bead. The bare tool is used for steel wheels like you'd find on a truck. The covered adaptor is used for mag and aluminum wheels. So I'm going to be sure the shop owner understands what tool to use, and I'm either going to get his assurance the wheels won't be maimed, or I'll get the R&R portion of the money I paid back in my pocket and I'll go to a tire shop that knows how to handle this stuff. Sadly, neither of the two dealers who take care of my cars now allow customers to have tires shipped in from TireRack, or I would have done that. What about the jack point pucks. Should I bring those? Or do these guys have something that will work?
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It sounds like you are wanting the absolute best service possible, and that will NOT be at a COSTCO! You need to find the specialty tire shop that does all the exotic cars in your area, but you're going to pay for it! This is what I do for my expensive discontinued wheel sets. It costs me 360 dollars to mount and balance four tires, but there is zero damage. I hate it, but that's life.
I have some friends at Bridgestone that give me deals on tires as long as I buy them from a Firestone Complete center. I asked the Firestone center about what tire machines they use and the employee said, if you dont want your wheels scratched, dont let us do it. Enough said, brother! With all that said, I've added some comments to your comments/questions in red text below: Do these guys have the proper pucks or spacers to lift the car without destroying the jacking points? If not, then I'm going to rush order a set from one of the sponsors. Your M3 jacking points and pucks are no different than all of the BMWs in the world over the last 40+ years. Costco is using the same lifts and jack pads that 99+% of all other tire shops (including BMW) use. So I wouldn't worry about this. I would like to see the Costco technicians face when you tell them how to do their job and what tools and adapters you want used for your car Im joking around here, but you know what I mean. Any special instructions I should give them? Besides be careful with my irreplaceable car? Pay attention to the mounting direction of the tires? Watch the torque on the lug nuts and don't you dare use an air gun to tighten them? Costco doesn't care about special instructions. They have their process and they do what they do. I will say, I drove by my local Costco wheel/tire bays not long ago and I saw a technician with a torque wrench in his hand actually torquing lug nuts on some NPC's boring car. I was surprised. Is there a special instruction for balancing? I don't know much about balancing so I just go by what is the latest info I read on our forums. Years ago in my E36 days everyone on Roadfly was told to match mount the tires. When I moved to the E46 I was told ask for road force balancing. When my wife got her M a few years ago I was told "get both". The tire tech actually got pissed when I said that and told me "pick one! Do you want road force? Or do you want match mounting?" I don't remember how that worked out. The correct way to balance a tire the best is to have the tire road force balanced. This method offsets the 'heaviest' points of the wheel and tire that helps to counter balance them, which allows you to use fewer lead wheel weights to get the balance correct. In summary: I'm going to Costco, teach me how to handle that so it's as painless as possible for me and my car comes out unscathed. Non-scathed. A complete lack of scathed. Don't go to Costco. Spend several hundred extra dollars and go to the tire shop that your local exotic car dealerships use.
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There are very few exotic dealers here. All the front line dealers have their own tire shops now. The second tier dealers that don't have a tire shop hire a mobile service to come out to their site. Those guys go to one location for an entire day and handle 50-60 swaps - they're not going to head out to the country for one set of tires. Also, the lone shop that I would have trusted with this work - and I've used them countless times before - is in another town about 40 miles from Costco. If Costco allowed shipping to outside shops I would have sent the order their way and that would have been then end of it. But I was only allowed to pick the Costco location where I wanted to go. If I cancel the tire service and pick the tires up, I'd either have to load them in my X, drive them to the tire shop, then come back with the M... or else take two trips driving the M back and forth. I don't have the energy or the time for that these days. Quote:
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Do Costco purchased tires have to mounted by Costco? If not, find a high-end indy shop that specializes in installing low-profile tires on 19-20” wheels. You’ll pay more for the install but you’ll have a much lower stress/anxiety level experience.
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So, as I mentioned earlier, moving the tires to a specialty shop isn't going to happen very easily.
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I had Michelin Alpin 5s installed at my local Costco recently. Took BMW jack pad adapters with me and the shop lead was appreciative I brought them. They were careful to use a torque wrench when reinstalling my wheels. Something to bear in mind, they won't work on your car if you have wheel spacers generally. The lead made an exception for me because I have the Future Classic spacers that actually bolt to the hub, but otherwise you're out of luck.
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If you say they fit I believe you, but I just can't imagine cramming tires back there. My interior is 13 years old but the leather is pristine. FWIW I detailed the car over the weekend and found the clear coat inside the wheel barrels was coming off in palm-sized chunks. The faces are still perfect, thankfully, but it's evident I'll have to pull the wheels and re-clear them at some point. Therefore I'm not exactly worried about scuffs, just gouges. I'll take them to Costco and report back here. Quote:
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Yeah but it helps you solve your problem of not enough beer, right?
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Same here!
Well great, how else am I going to get rid of all the beer that people gift me?
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What else do you do when someone gives you IPA weirdness? A friend says "You like gourmet food, right? I got you some 'Intense Super Lilac Extra Chocolate Coffee Grapefruit 240 Minute Quadruple Hopped IPA' and I know you'll like it".
So yeah, it gets regifted.
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Have you lost any friends as a result?
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You're assuming I put my name on the gift. I usually just leave it on their doorstep, ring the bell, and run away.
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Here's the update:
The tires are on the car. The staff at Costco turned out to be very good. Three different techs complimented me on the car, and they all seemed happy they had the chance to work on it. The youngster that pulled it out of the shop and parked it seemed almost starstruck and kept looking at it as he walked back to the shop. I do the same thing whenever I park it, so now I feel like less of a dork knowing that other people do that too. The balance job is perfect. The car came back to me clean. No metal missing from the wheels. I paid close to the same as what I would have paid if I'd gone with my first choice - the Indy 500 - and had it shipped to my usual tire shop for mounting. Now I have nitrogen fill and a 5 year road hazard warranty on some very costly tires. I usually see at least one flat every year on every car I own, so this is going to turn out to be very good for me, I think. Overall I'm really happy with the decision to go to Costco, and I'm overjoyed with the PS4S. My car looks new inside and out, now it rides like new. Perfect grip, perfect ride, and these must be the quietest tires I've ever owned. I really like the Indy 500 on my wife's M, but they do not hold any benefit over the PS4S.
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