Has anybody run a Michelin Pilot Sport 4s in track with our car?

[dparm]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

People have to be realistic when buying tires. Living with a track tire like the AD08R when you track a couple times a year and aren't in the advanced group is a complete waste.

300% this. The AD08R sucks on public roads, and I am speaking from experience. Tons of tread noise. Extremely stiff ride. You will never use all of its performance potential on the street unless you have a death wish. A PS4S or whatever is plenty of street performance with better manners and usability.

[dplaras]

I ran p4s finally @ limerock 2 weekend ago. I was surprised about the grip and I believe I was pretty satisfied at it's performance. I only goes 2 times a yr so buying this really made a lot of difference on street driving. I ran AD08 before and it was very noisy. P4s is very quiet and just had a chance to drive it in the rain. I was very amazed at how planted the tires even on heavy downpour. Couldn't be happier...

here's the last session I had at limerock. I took the A group since it has been 4 yrs since I went back to a track again...

[derbo]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

This weekend I tracked a car with the PS4s.

They work just fine if you have camber plates. They won't keep an advanced driver happy for long but they are very competent.

People have to be realistic when buying tires. Living with a track tire like the AD08R when you track a couple times a year and aren't in the advanced group is a complete waste.

That is good to know. While I was in advanced group in my old car, I never driven my E90M on the track before and its been about 2 years since my last HPDE. I'm sure the PS4S will be decent enough with camber kit for 1 HPDE; hopefully.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by derbo

That is good to know. While I was in advanced group in my old car, I never driven my E90M on the track before and its been about 2 years since my last HPDE. I'm sure the PS4S will be decent enough with camber kit for 1 HPDE; hopefully.

As long as you have camber plates I think you'll be pleased! Let us know how it works!

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by dplaras

I currently have AD08(275x30x19 and 295x30x19). However I need to replace my rear tires. Unfortunately ad08r don't have this configuration anymore. After searching, it seems p4s is a valiable tires and bought it for dual purpose(I only track my car once or twice a year).

Do you think P4s is trackable at all? I'm planning to run on -1.6 (front) and -2.1 (rear) camber on stock suspension and eibach lowering spring.

I was skeptical but I just ran in low to mis 90 degree temps at Summit Point -Main, and these tires were impressive. No squealin, unless I came in to a corner too fast, and never once lost the rears. Not an expert driver, but passed everyone in my group, and never once felt the car was unsteady. Running 275/30/19F and 295/30/19F.

Started each session at 30 psi and ended at 37 psi. Also running KWv3 w/no camber. Installing the Swift conversion next month so will run VIR in August with some camber. Expect the tires will again hold up well. Hated the Super Sports, but really like these tires.

[stefan_e36]

I finally have already found the topic I needed on this forum))

Will use ps4s 4 times a year on track days, thanks for useful info, I will give feedback, or ask some questions.

[stefan_e36]

Originally Posted by stefan_e36

I finally have already found the topic I needed on this forum))

Will use ps4s 4 times a year on track days, thanks for useful info, I will give feedback, or ask some questions.

4 track days with ps4s 255/275 zcp stock setup camder Front-1,4 Rear -1,8 , condition is still good, but not so much grip as Federal RS-RR. Overall distance at this tires near 2000 miles. testing continue...

[AirborneFF]

Good info here. I have an E90 comp. I am running 255f / 275 rear on PS4S. With vorshlag plates. -2.1 front and -1.6 rear with a smidgen of toe. I am fonna try to keep the front pressures at 35 and rear at 32. I am running Charlotte's roval in NC
I will report to maybe help someone or warn them lol.

[Ca86108]

Any updates on this thread? How many track days and street miles are you getting out of a set? I only got one day out of my regular pilot sports before the inner edge melted away. I’m looking to get the 4s. I am wondering how many street miles plus track days you have done before you get to the wear bars???

Also, can you add camber plates to a stock suspension? What do you recommend to reduce wear on the outsides?

I do 5-7 track days per year, daily drive the car, and run intermediate group.

[tsk94]

Originally Posted by Ca86108

Any updates on this thread? How many track days and street miles are you getting out of a set? I only got one day out of my regular pilot sports before the inner edge melted away. I’m looking to get the 4s. I am wondering how many street miles plus track days you have done before you get to the wear bars???

Also, can you add camber plates to a stock suspension? What do you recommend to reduce wear on the outsides?

I do 5-7 track days per year, daily drive the car, and run intermediate group.

Asking that is like asking what kind of MPG you get, but not taking into account how the car is being driven. Wear will vary depending on the track, alignment, and what pace you're running.

Yes, you can add camber plates to stock suspension and that will go a long way to prolong tire life.

[Hein Jockins]

Originally Posted by Ca86108

Any updates on this thread? How many track days and street miles are you getting out of a set? I only got one day out of my regular pilot sports before the inner edge melted away. I’m looking to get the 4s. I am wondering how many street miles plus track days you have done before you get to the wear bars???

Also, can you add camber plates to a stock suspension? What do you recommend to reduce wear on the outsides?

I do 5-7 track days per year, daily drive the car, and run intermediate group.

I used PS4S for my first 3 track events I did cause the car was a street car then so those were the tires I had. I quickly outgrew the tires, and at the time I was on stock suspension with maxed out front camber around -1.2. I wore the edges of the tires and ended up chunking them. Switched to 200tw (RT660 at the time) and you would have to tie me down and force me to use pilot sports on a race track in the dry now. For someone doing 1-2 events a year in novice I think they’re perfect and there’s no reason to justify spending $1500 for a set of 200tw for a fun DE.

Camber plates will most definitely help reduce outer edge wear and I will also suggest running marginally higher pressures. I’m just now getting coilovers and camber plates, so I have loads of track events with a stock suspension setup, and I would shoot for 40psi hot—as I found lower pressures would chunk the edges and reduce wear. Not ideal, but definitelt helps with longevity.

[BoilerUP]

Front left 265/35R18 PS4S after 2nd track day at NCM on an ATS-V Sedan 9"w front wheel. Novice driver, 28psi cold/35psi hot target, aligned to -2.0 front camber before the 1st track day a month earlier but found at -1.1 after this 2nd track day:



Great street tire for the occasional track day, but definitely needs camber and is prone to sidewall rollover - especially if overdriven.