Epic Motorsports NA Tune

[nycplumber]

Originally Posted by SFCM3

if yer gonna throw it out there that Epic convinced you to return your Karbonius, you would think you could back it up with a reason. Otherwise, why even bother to throw that statement out there on a public forum?

I don't feel it's my business to repeat what other people have said, unless they tell me that directly. If others are interested I recommend to look into what I said and take it from there. I think that's helpful enough considering no one else has mentioned it yet.

[wyatth]

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Just a bit of history. Epic was the company that unlocked sizable power gains from the S54. They were an easy 20-30 whp over other tunes until everyone else caught up. Most of their S54 tunes with headers and exhaust were pushing over 320-330whp.

I see Epic as an innovative company. Can't think of any other tuner that falls into that...except maybe ESS.

Just curious, what was Epic doing before everybody else? I know they’re among the best with the S54 and had some impressive headers. But the SS V1s are just as good and there are many good tuners out there. Maybe I’m just not aware of the chronological order of things, curious what Epic did first/differently.

[wyatth]

Originally Posted by nycplumber

I don't feel it's my business to repeat what other people have said, unless they tell me that directly. If others are interested I recommend to look into what I said and take it from there. I think that's helpful enough considering no one else has mentioned it yet.

You were upset with the Karbonious GB for whatever reason and looking to flip the airbox anyway IIRC ...

[tdott]

Originally Posted by nycplumber

That's why I have their tune and also why I returned my karbonius box. Epic knows their $H!T.

For what reason didn't you not install the Karbonious intake? couldn't afford it? Not worth it?

[wyatth]

^ Yes and yes. I doubt Epic opined on the airbox. Read his commentary in the GB thread, it’s entertaining. Not to further detail this thread though ...

[nycplumber]

Originally Posted by wyatth

^ Yes and yes. I doubt Epic opined on the airbox. Read his commentary in the GB thread, it’s entertaining. Not to further detail this thread though ...

They definitely did and like I said any one else is welcome to do their own research. My reasons for ditching the karbonius is a mile long list but the conversation was the nail in the coffin and the most important reason. Moving on, let's not fill this thread anymore with pointless back and forth and get back to people commenting on their own experiences with epic.

[1FastSicilian]

Bringing this thread back from the dead.. Currently have an Alpine tune but thinking to switch to Epic..

has anyone done the same?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by 1FastSicilian

Bringing this thread back from the dead.. Currently have an Alpine tune but thinking to switch to Epic..

has anyone done the same?

Do it, you won't regret it. Randy is an exceptional tuner.

[Soden82]

Does he tune supercharged cars?

[zcp312]

Originally Posted by 1FastSicilian

Bringing this thread back from the dead.. Currently have an Alpine tune but thinking to switch to Epic..

has anyone done the same?

Just did the same Alpine to Epic 3 months ago, you won't be disappointed.

[jp1984]

epic tune is the best for NA supercharger go ess

[M_Torx]

Originally Posted by jp1984

epic tune is the best for NA supercharger go ess

why ess heard VF got better blower ?

[jp1984]

Originally Posted by TurboT888

why ess heard VF got better blower ?

the ess supercharger and their tune offers the absolute best performance (not just raw hp#s) in my opinion. one goes with the other. i would only run an ess supercharger on my car (if i was going to go that route, but im not) i wouldnt run any other supercharger, even if it were free, but thats just my opinion.

[M_Torx]

^^^
did more digging agree with u for sure ESS is been around longer and better rep plus there intercooler looks bigger definitely better all around setup

[jp1984]

Originally Posted by TurboT888

^^^
did more digging agree with u for sure ESS is been around longer and better rep plus there intercooler looks bigger definitely better all around setup

one also does not have to wonder far from the e90 dyno database to see actual results either.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Soden82

Does he tune supercharged cars?

Not likely, but best to ask Epic directly. With all respect to Randy, it's best to source SC tunes from the manufacturer instead of 3rd party.

Originally Posted by jp1984

the ess supercharger and their tune offers the absolute best performance (not just raw hp#s) in my opinion. one goes with the other. i would only run an ess supercharger on my car (if i was going to go that route, but im not) i wouldnt run any other supercharger, even if it were free, but thats just my opinion.

Same. ESS is still continuously providing component updates to the kit, even when the platform is over 15 years old. Says a lot about a company to continue pushing forward like this.

Originally Posted by TurboT888

^^^
did more digging agree with u for sure ESS is been around longer and better rep plus there intercooler looks bigger definitely better all around setup

Manifold got a little facelift also:

Originally Posted by TurboT888

did more digging agree with u for sure ESS is been around longer and better rep plus there intercooler looks bigger definitely better all around setup

Bingo

[911r]

Originally Posted by 1FastSicilian

Bringing this thread back from the dead.. Currently have an Alpine tune but thinking to switch to Epic..

has anyone done the same?

Yes. Night and day. Especially if you have a forward x mid pipe.

[smokinjoe64]

Originally Posted by codinge90

All the off the shelf tunes from most big names are going to be super similar and you're really not going to notice a huge bump in power. It's when you start using different fuel like race gas or e85 is when tunes vary quite a bit. If you just plan on running normal octane, there are plenty of other routes for half the price like Alex Alpine with his stage 2 tune, the Dinan race tune for catless cars (this still exists, there are vendors that still sell it. Dinan does not sell this directly anymore).

Fully concur..."If you just plan on running normal octane, there are plenty of other routes for half the price like Alex Alpine with his stage 2 tune"...

Be selective, informed for overall 'tune' outcomes & value.

[jp1984]

i go with a tuner that /has always taken logs. getting a cheap tune is like getting alibaba brakes, why risk your car on something so important?

[pkeller99]

I’ve been running epic with my BW mid pipe for about 6 months now and it is great. Biggest thing I noticed coming from the stock tune was just the overall smoothness of the car. I didn’t think the stock tune was “unrefined”, but the epic tune just was a step up!

[GinTonic]

Another thumbs up to Epic / Randy. Thanks for making this smooth and easy.

I spent the past week driving on the stock tune after installing AA test pipes. That was fun!

Randy sent over his tune this afternoon. Initial impressions...

I'll post more thoughts after I get more seat time than the 30 minute drive I made this evening after uploading his tune. It's a welcome change, and the inner child in me is

Think I might keep this car a little longer now.

[KawBoy]

I have had Epic for several years. Randy is the guy.