Track forum general chit chat.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

I've found that if you get very close and powerslide a bit (preferably out onto the curb), they usually point you by faster.

For sure, if you get a bit alongside them or powerslide they will move out of the way

sometimes the people come up to you after and tell you how much fun it was to play 'cat and mouse' with you... and I just wonder if I'm taking crazy pills

There is such a thing as playing cat and mouse on the track. I recall the first outing of the CS with RE71s, there was a 6MT 991.2 with R7 hoosiers which passed me twice and I passed twice. That is entertaining. Not giving a pass and talking about 'cat and mouse' means you are brain dead

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

sometimes the people come up to you after and tell you how much fun it was to play 'cat and mouse' with you... and I just wonder if I'm taking crazy pills

Lmao like I've been playing cat and mouse wrong my whole life.

[roastbeef]

Originally Posted by rhyary

No love from two GT3s

you need to get so far up their ass that they think you're going to run into them. 1- you'll be obvious even if they aren't checking their mirrors. 2- they'll let you pass so you don't run into them.

[dparm]

This is now a GT3-hate thread.

[Bimmer Barney]

When I went to Thermal, the member who invited us had a GT3RS. After lunch he said "want to ride shotgun for a few laps?" I said "no thanks, I think I'll just keep practicing and learning the track in my car."

Seemed like a normal response to me but the guy couldn't believe I didn't accepted the "opportunity" to ride in a true "racecar." 🤷🏻*♂️

I'll admit I'd rather have a GT3RS than my M3, but it's not like he was asking to ride in a Ford GT or McLaren P1 or something.

[StripclubDJ]

Originally Posted by dparm

This is now a GT3-hate thread.

Can someone please get this pos Chevy out of these pics? I'm trying to look at automotive perfection .

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by dparm

This is now a GT3-hate thread.

Gah I love that first photo. Looks like they need some grass out there on photo two though haha.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

Gah I love that first photo. Looks like they need some grass out there on photo two though haha.

tRaCk LiMiTs!!!!11!

[rhyary]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

you need to get so far up their ass that they think you're going to run into them. 1- you'll be obvious even if they aren't checking their mirrors. 2- they'll let you pass so you don't run into them.

You forget the amount of rubber these cars throw at your face. I still like my car to be reasonable shinny. They were not giving point bys because the GT3 are very fast in the straights. While we were doing 1:43-44 they felt that they were screaming fast and also they were so loud that it contributed to their sense of how fast they were going.

I just gave up and slowed down, understanding my place in the hierarchy of prestige.

[roastbeef]

whelp, be more aggressive, or enjoy the view of those fine machines ahead of you.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Barney

When I went to Thermal, the member who invited us had a GT3RS. After lunch he said "want to ride shotgun for a few laps?" I said "no thanks, I think I'll just keep practicing and learning the track in my car."

Seemed like a normal response to me but the guy couldn't believe I didn't accepted the "opportunity" to ride in a true "racecar." 🤷🏻*♂️

I'll admit I'd rather have a GT3RS than my M3, but it's not like he was asking to ride in a Ford GT or McLaren P1 or something.

A 991.2 GT3RS is what I was running around a bit in this weekend. Definitely an incredible car but certainly not the wow factor like you said with a Ford GT or P1 or something like that. The main guy behind the track day brought his 488 Pista, Ford GT, & 599XX - now that had a wee bit of wow factor to it.

All joking aside about the Porshuhs though - the GT3RS is a pretty bad ass car. For casual tracking right out of the box it is pretty amazing & can be extremely fast if pushed a bit (as well it should be at that price tag). Lizard green with all the carbon bits like the one in dparm picture - love the combo.

Also drove a Cayman R. Was like a go kart but a bit unstable at higher speeds. Interesting drive. The grip & rotation through the slow stuff was crazy but the quicker stuff it started to get a bit too loose for my liking. And whoever designed the pedal box for that car must have been having a bad day - I have no clue how rev matching is possible with the oem pedals.

[Kelse92]

Originally Posted by dparm

This is now a GT3-hate thread.

LOL I have a pic with that Lizard Green car too

Also, I have to partly agree with OG Shark's sentiments about the wow factor. Very cool but these days I joke about them being the new "Miata's of COTA" they're everywhere in videos out there I feel like!

They are definitely amazing out the box, but maybe almost too good?? A friend of mine who tracked his a bit got "bored" with how good and easy to drive it was and sold it for a 1200whp straight-line GTR for more thrills and is looking for a beater track S2k or something instead.

[CorruptCommie]

Point 'n shoot driving isn't interesting. I'll take a 6/7GT3 over anything.

No hate for GT3's here, just owners that think they automatically got into a higher skill level because they bought one.

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by Kelse92

LOL I have a pic with that Lizard Green car too

Also, I have to partly agree with OG Shark's sentiments about the wow factor. Very cool but these days I joke about them being the new "Miata's of COTA" they're everywhere in videos out there I feel like!

They are definitely amazing out the box, but maybe almost too good?? A friend of mine who tracked his a bit got "bored" with how good and easy to drive it was and sold it for a 1200whp straight-line GTR for more thrills and is looking for a beater track S2k or something instead.

Miatas of COTA - that's absolutely perfect! That's exactly what it seems like. First it was the GT3 but now that has moved on the GT3RS being everywhere out there.

It's a lot of car to be pushing the limit with - and I could see someone not wanting to chop the car up to improve the safety - so I could see a bit of stagnation kind of setting in on the track with some people if you get to a point where you are just clicking laps off. Sometimes a step back is a positive.

[dparm]

The RS is wicked but it just doesn't do it for me. For that kind of money, there's other stuff I think I'd rather have.

They're certainly ubiquitous at HPDEs lately, which is great to see. It means people are out there driving those cars and enjoying them, not just parking them at home. It must drive the Porsche engineers crazy when the fruits of their labor are barely ever realized by owners.

[//steve\\]

Originally Posted by CorruptCommie

Point 'n shoot driving isn't interesting. I'll take a 6/7GT3 over anything.

No hate for GT3's here, just owners that think they automatically got into a higher skill level because they bought one.

997.1 GT3 for me please. That said. I'm convinced that for a large chunk of money less than one of those costs you could have a M3 that's faster in just about every way.

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by //steve\\

I'm convinced that for a large chunk of money less than one of those costs you could have a M3 that's faster in just about every way.

Is there a newer car for which this isn't true?

[b4hand]

Originally Posted by rhyary

No love from two GT3s

Screw that. I would've just pulled in and let them go ahead. Literally wasting your money at that point

[k_mann]

Originally Posted by b4hand

Are there production cars from a big name manufacturer that have fixed back bucket seats?

It's a weird situation because Porsche will sell you 918 seats with a roll bar and harnesses from the factory. But I don't know if this specific config is crash tested it even needs to be. The seats do sit against the roll bar though, so they won't really collapse, but they don't need to at that point.

The sls AMG black, AMG Gtr, and m4 gts all seem to come with their own version of a Recaro pole position in Europe. The m3 gts has straight pro fi's I think. So maybe the EU has the magic shrink away technology ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Bimmer Barney]

Originally Posted by b4hand

Screw that. I would've just pulled in and let them go ahead. Literally wasting your money at that point

I need to be better at this if I'm honest. I try hard to stay predictable and out of the way of those that are faster than I am but most of the time I'm trying to get people out of my way and can be too aggressive. Have to remember it's just a track day and not a race. I could just as easily pull in to create space to avoid the risks.

[WhiteM3EMC]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Barney

I need to be better at this if I'm honest. I try hard to stay predictable and out of the way of those that are faster than I am but most of the time I'm trying to get people out of my way and can be too aggressive. Have to remember it's just a track day and not a race. I could just as easily pull in to create space to avoid the risks.

Definitely something that I think most of us could work on. Also hard to make decisions based on sound logic when you have tons of adrenaline flowing and you're irritated because you haven't been able to get a point by from someone who's slowing you down.

At a past track day, I made a frankly dangerous pass on 2 Miatas going into the Esses at Road Atlanta. Certainly way too aggressive for an HPDE event, and I could've easily waited another 15 seconds to pass them safely coming out of Turn 5. The second I finished the pass, I felt terrible. As soon as the session was over, I followed them to their paddock spot and apologized. They were cool with it, but certainly too aggressive for HPDE.

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by WhiteM3EMC

Definitely something that I think most of us could work on. Also hard to make decisions based on sound logic when you have tons of adrenaline flowing and you're irritated because you haven't been able to get a point by from someone who's slowing you down.

At a past track day, I made a frankly dangerous pass on 2 Miatas going into the Esses at Road Atlanta. Certainly way too aggressive for an HPDE event, and I could've easily waited another 15 seconds to pass them safely coming out of Turn 5. The second I finished the pass, I felt terrible. As soon as the session was over, I followed them to their paddock spot and apologized. They were cool with it, but certainly too aggressive for HPDE.

Not enough of this in the world today. Nicely done fellow human.