Won ebay auction at 60K for E90 M3, BMW of Lincoln refusing to honor

[mrmcderm]

Originally Posted by Triple-Net-Automotive

I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULD NOT READ OR WRITE IN THIS FORUM, BUT SOMEBODY SHIFTED THEIR HERRASEMENT FROM THE BMW DEALER TO ME. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. THIS IS WHAT I RECEIVED TODAY:

Dude, are you serious? Jeebus, this thread just made me more stupid.

[mrmcderm]

BTW, why are the lawyers for both parties posting on a public internet forum? I haven't had much experience with lawyers, but it seems to me once something is pending litigation, don't the lawyers and clients clam up because anything they say publicly can be used in court?

I'm going to laugh if it turns out dooma can't end up securing financing...this whole deal has gotten really freaking weird.

[BritBoy]

Come, the Resolution?

[sjames]

Well, I've been following this from the beginning, and I can only hope that this turns out well.

I somehow don't see this being resolved today.

[thetastelingers]

Originally Posted by BritBoy

Come, the Resolution?

Any?
Is he going to get his car?

[ImJustSayin']

Well, as of this post, it's 5:40AM on the West Coast.

I expect we won't hear anything for a while as I'm sure all concerned parties are either still in bed or just rubbing the sleep out of their eyes.

[BavarianFanatic]

Originally Posted by mrmcderm

BTW, why are the lawyers for both parties posting on a public internet forum? I haven't had much experience with lawyers, but it seems to me once something is pending litigation, don't the lawyers and clients clam up because anything they say publicly can be used in court?

I'm going to laugh if it turns out dooma can't end up securing financing...this whole deal has gotten really freaking weird.

+1 I don't know of ANY attorneys that would post on an internet forum in such a fashion. Their concerns should be protecting their clients' legal interests, not defending them on the internet. Weird is an understatement.

[Shorebird]

Let's have a DRUM ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL............................... ......................

[BigPum]

The suspense is killing me!

[blarney]

Originally Posted by runutzzzzz

Nothing wrong with leasing this car. Just because he stole it doesn't mean that the leasing company makes out. Just a lower payment for him.
Residual stays the same it's based off of MSRP NOT purchase price.

That's what I'm getting at, he basically gave that deal to a leasing company so now they get to buy it for below MSRP, they will rent that car to him for a few years and at the end they get to sell that car to him or someone else based on it's depreciation over MSRP. Which means they are the ones who reap the benefit of this deal.

[Spazdoc]

I feel for you, man. Giving a response on this forum, argumentative, respectful, or insulting, is one thing. But to go out the way and start insulting someone, that is unacceptable. I do agree that the swinnish multitude has diluted out some of dooma's noble cause. Unfortunately, these people will do the inane things they do. Especially these E-thugs that can hide behind their keyboard. I have received rude remarks on the telephone, only to be rescinded in person.

As for the contention that you should not have posted their private info or IP address, they brought it upon themselves when they sent you insults outside of the forum. It is quite different if you had posted up the IP address of a legitimate poster from this thread.

[toddy33]

We've passed the 900,000 mark. Once we get an update, I'm betting it's easily going to top 1,000,000.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by runutzzzzz

Nothing wrong with leasing this car. Just because he stole it doesn't mean that the leasing company makes out. Just a lower payment for him.
Residual stays the same it's based off of MSRP NOT purchase price.

Yeah, but this isn't a BMWFS lease. The residual his leasing source uses doesn't have to be the same that BMWFS uses.

[VoiceofAJ]

First of all let me start out by showing you what I read on Fark to get me started on this thread "BMW of Lincoln Nebraska still withholding penis extension from eBay winner". I had no idea what to think I just wanted to find out what it was all about. The link took me to Autoblog.com, and as I read it I wanted to find out more, which brought me to here. Through reading the first few pages, and even now I 100% support Ken in getting the car. As people said in the beginning, if he would have said he made a "mistake" when bidding and didn't really want to buy the car, he still would have been held fully responsible for paying for it.

Now for the real reason I am posting here is because of posts form BMW M5 Power, as well as people's anger towards BMWNA for not stepping in. BMW M5 Power is completely right in HAG selling more cars now, because once you are in the door you are hooked and they can convince you that they are the right ones and Ken is making stuff up. The car dealer's job is to make you think that you are pulling one over on them, as apposed to vice versa. So people think they are getting great deals because of the whole ordeal, and HAG is selling more cars than they would normally.

Now for BMWNA. Maybe this will show that Big business does not care about the consumer, just your money. BMW doesn't care what you think about the individual dealer. They know you will buy their car because of the name not the greatness of the car. There could be a dog turd in the back of every BMW and people that want the car, no matter how overpriced it is because of the name, will still buy it. I'm not trying to knock any BMW owners, lord knows if I had the money I might have one, but if their product is lacking don't buy it.

This is only my opinion, burn me at the stake all you want.

[AEC]

Originally Posted by blarney

That's what I'm getting at, he basically gave that deal to a leasing company so now they get to buy it for below MSRP, they will rent that car to him for a few years and at the end they get to sell that car to him or someone else based on it's depreciation over MSRP. Which means they are the ones who reap the benefit of this deal.

The residual is based on MSRP and is not affected by the sales price. Any benefit from a low sales price will be had in the form of low lease payments. The leasing company isn't getting any significant benefit.

[bimmerfile]

[MonkPDX]

I seriously doubt that this mess will be resolved today.

The lease/sale won't be consumated.

Ken's M3 won't be loaded for shipment to CA.

At best, another extension. At worst, it all blows up.

We shall see

[cngzsn]

Ok man, this thread is not about you and you have to deal with whoever you think is harassing you yourself. Why do we care why you are being harassed? Please stfu and gtfo...

Originally Posted by Triple-Net-Automotive

Okay, so i'm minding my own business and I get these two emails, these guys contacted me through my website not through this post. Here you go:

contact_name: BC

dealer_name:

tel:

comments: you should not longer speak on M3post.com. we can make many troubles for you.

Sender IP: 210.22.158.XXX

contact_name: n*****ass

dealer_name: n*****ass corp.

tel: 205914XXXX

comments: why dont you quit being such a pussy ass bitch?

Sender IP: 71.8.38.XXX

Just to bring everybody up to speed, I posted some comments on M3 Post that are pro-dealer, this is the harassment I get because of it.

I am hiding some of these gentlemen's IP and tel# for privacy. (eventhough an IP address would not give give you their street address or any private information and the tel# is bad)

These two emails are in addition to a hate email I already posted. I am not mad or angry, I am just wondering what these bullies do for a living???

No Wonder BMW of Lincoln is pissed off, they are probably flooded with hate emails. There is some people out there with no decency or common sense!

[BMWx5]

We need updates on the current situation !

[ImJustSayin']

I usually downshift, when I am near a PRIUS, so they can hear me hurting the environment.

I usually use commas, in awkward places, to annoy grammarians.

[Desert Rat]

Originally Posted by VoiceofAJ

Now for BMWNA. Maybe this will show that Big business does not care about the consumer, just your money. BMW doesn't care what you think about the individual dealer. They know you will buy their car because of the name not the greatness of the car. There could be a dog turd in the back of every BMW and people that want the car, no matter how overpriced it is because of the name, will still buy it. I'm not trying to knock any BMW owners, lord knows if I had the money I might have one, but if their product is lacking don't buy it.

Many here have asked for BMWNA to step in. The problem with that is the dealerships have franchise agreements that are lengthy and protect the dealership more than BMWNA. The dealerships are a independent business and the manufacturer has no control over day to day operations. There are disagreements on a daily basis between customers and businesses, more so in automotive related that others but still few, if any, business around the world are able to please every customer every day. One can not reasonably expect corporate headquarters to step in every time there is a dispute.

This problem was worked out between the parties in a reasonable time frame, so what do you want BMWNA to do?

[toddy33]

Originally Posted by ImJustSayin'

I usually use commas, in awkward places, to annoy grammarians.

Actually, I am a grammarian. No kidding--professionally. I teach grammar. I can honestly say that your parenthetical commas are okay. Both of you.