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How do you get the blank Key though? You can't just walk into a parts dept and buy a blank key to a x5 for example, it has to have a vin# attached to it? Just checked with our guys. All the keys are cut by BMW. they won't ship a key till you have proof of driver license, insurance proof, and proof of ownership. You can't just buy a blank key. I don't see how you can buy a blank key, you can't do it from a dealership for sure.
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I see so its not a real BMW key, gotcha. I was going to say its pretty much impossible to get a key from BMW unless you provide what I posted above.
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Nice! However, if you sent your car to the dealer for service, give them the original spare so they won't go round looking for a different car. just kidding,...
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Guys, thank you all for the interest.
First of all, my intention of posting here is merely to share my joy of having a fantastic new key that I thought was OEM and the process how it's made, not trying to sell it whatsoever and be a vendor of any kind. The BMW dealer it's sourced from has a very limited supply of it so I am not able to help out many of you that's really interested. Needless to say it's very helpful to hear you back. I checked yesterday with the dealer on the tiny hole that my key probably should've had but didn't and was told there're too many different variants of razor keys so he needs to check back with the manufacture. A few hours back, the dealer manager contacted me and sent a few pictures, as I requested, of the keys (see below) of the X5 and X6 they have in the showroom at present, which apparently are different from each other -one with 3 chrome buttons & without ///M on the side, VS. the other one with 3 black plastic buttons & with ///M on the side, but a hole in the insert key is what they have in common. Both are 100% OEM coming with the car from BMW. The dealer also confirmed that a few variants of razor keys come without hole, though he cannot confirm if X5m is one of them. Both of us have no idea what that hole is for. The other things the dealer manager told or implied, I am in no position to tell, but these, as following, are either my understanding or what I have high level of confidence in believing. Take it with a grain of salt though. 1) The retrofit key is not OEM, technically speaking. I shall and did correct it in the OP. 2) The retrofit key is made in China 100%, the same things can be said to OEM keys of X1/X3/3er/5er. 3) The retrofit X5M chip board (the black one shown in OP) is custom made to accommodate razor key enclosure and is dealing with 434 and 315 signal frequency, which is compatible with F8X & F3X, or all the 434/315 chips. BTW, frequency can be easily known by taking off insert key so you'll be able to see the number shown on top of the key. 4) The OEM X5/X6 chip board does NOT accommodate F8X and F3X chips, which means you won't be able to do the swap without using a retrofit chip board. 5) X5 OEM chip board directly fits retrofit X5M enclosure. This is useful when someone wants to upgrade from black plastic button/side without ///M to chrome aluminum button/side with ///M. 6) The buzz button on the retrofit key is a decorative only (though it clicks normally as a button), because F8X doesn't have buzz function to begin with. 7) Retrofit Insert Key is blank (see picture below with insert key off), can be modded to original key if needed. That being said, I am still more than 100% satisfied with the retrofit, I'd definitely do it even if I knew all of the above from the beginning. The new key even clicks far better than OEM plastic and aluminum, which is clearly a good fit/quality indication. To say it's made to an equivalent quality standard to OEM key is definitely a understatement. I simply cannot live with the old key anymore. Moving forward, I will be retrofitting the key every time I have a new BMW. BTW, for some of you who like my key chain, it's made IN HOUSE by my wife and is Sean exclusive
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Apple has spent a ton of money designing an enclosure that works as a part of the antenna system. Ever wonder what those lines are for, and why most other phones aren't metal or have "windows"? If you put BMWs crappy PCB trace key fob antenna inside a 360 degree metal enclosure you are essentially creating a shield. It might still work if you're lucky and only severely reduce the distance it works at. Last edited by chris719; 12-09-2016 at 03:41 AM.. |
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Aluminum is not transparent to 315MHz. Please go pick up a textbook.
Aluminum will attenuate the signal and probably detune the antenna to some degree. Will it still work? Maybe. But it's a bad idea. Yes, plastic, glass, or ceramic would all be better. Wood, too. You could probably still make it out of aluminum mostly without much impact if you don't cover the antenna. |
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You are harming the signal strength I am sure. You just don't know how to measure it. Whatever, if people buy your stuff then cool, but don't spread misinformation. Aluminum is a good material for shielding in the real world.
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Different countries have different cultures. Status and image are extremely important in Asia. Don't sound ignorant
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You are completely clueless about electronics so just please stop. Sorry if you think I damaged your idea to sell $450 signal attenuators. Last edited by chris719; 12-09-2016 at 09:20 AM.. |
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No, not embarrassed but yes I spent good money the key should be special. It cheapens the experience. Like a great suit with horrible shoes. I buy my cars becuase i like speed and feel but I don't dislike the vanity aspect.
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