New exhaust vs Used

njdrive · 11-14-2014, 07:13 PM

I've decided I want the MPE. I've found the MPE brand new for $3100 and used between $2500 - $2800. I know with brand new there will be no unknown issues and I get to break in the exhaust. Used, I can save $300- $600. I like the idea of having more money on my side in the form of savings. With new, I get piece of mind. Piece of mind is priceless.

What are your thoughts? Should I go used and save the money or buy new and pay with piece of mind? Any past experiences with used exhausts ?

M3GarageKing · 11-14-2014, 07:15 PM

New is always better if you have the $

njdrive · 11-14-2014, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M3GarageKing

New is always better if you have the $

Thank you.

foam · 11-14-2014, 08:14 PM

I've bought my exhaust used. Just find one with low mileage and save your money for other mods. It's going to get dirty under your car anyways

m3ray · 11-14-2014, 08:14 PM

OEM exhaust mod, and go on vacation with the savings. The MPE is known for cracking. You're welcome

M3 Pilot · 11-14-2014, 08:18 PM

New MPE is quiet. A used MPE with several thousand miles will sound louder.

Personally I would buy new.

njdrive · 11-14-2014, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m3ray

OEM exhaust mod, and go on vacation with the savings. The MPE is known for cracking. You're welcome

Thanks. Known for cracking? really?? I'm going to search the forum for more info on this cracking.

m3ray · 11-14-2014, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by njdrive

Thanks. Known for cracking? really?? I'm going to search the forum for more info on this cracking.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=897377

njdrive · 11-14-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m3ray

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=897377

M3ray, thank you. as much as I want the MPE, but after reading the posts, I'm going to look for a different exhaust.

Konig · 11-14-2014, 08:54 PM

I've been considering the same question of new v used. For the M performance exhaust, there is a warranty period correct? Does the require installation by the dealer and all of that?

I know I can do it myself and I'd prefer to save money on a used one, but if the thing is going to crack the warranty would be pretty key.

Agent-GHQ · 11-14-2014, 08:57 PM

I bought mine brand new since the price of a used one isn't that significantly different. As for as cracking goes that is very limited and those that cracked resulted in some form of abused and most likely did not use oem xpipe and opt for something that sounds obnoxious and uncharacteristic.

I don't exoect the price of a new one to drop any time soon but then again that is just the rule of supply n demand.

Yvette · 11-14-2014, 10:12 PM

Can't go wrong with mpe
I like mine

STooK · 11-14-2014, 11:55 PM

I would buy used but not at the prices you are finding them for. I've seen them go for $2k even in the forums here and I'd say that's a pretty good deal. I wouldn't worry about cracking either, it seems kind of blown out of proportion like every issue on the M3. Paying $3-4k for an exhaust doesn't make sense to me...hell neither does paying $2k which is the reason why I haven't pulled the trigger yet.

On my 335i I bought my PE new for about $1500 and sold it for about half of what I paid. I would not buy a exhaust new unless I really have to...it doesn't really wear so getting a gently used one is the way to go. But on our M's, like someone suggested, I would look into getting the OEM exhaust mod. I think that's the route I'm going to take since it costs a fraction of an aftermarket exhaust while still sounding pretty damn good.

IB M · 11-15-2014, 07:34 AM

Let's hear from the guys that bought new and still have no cracking after 2 or more years. I'd like to do this mod but don't want to deal with cracking issue.

spdy330 · 11-15-2014, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by njdrive

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Originally Posted by m3ray

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=897377

M3ray, thank you. as much as I want the MPE, but after reading the posts, I'm going to look for a different exhaust.

Mine is nearing 4 years old with no issues at all. Don't stress out like the bearing fears that is going around. Not everyone will experience an issue.

Denk · 11-15-2014, 12:38 PM

I prefer to buy new. Peace of mind, warranty. I've had 3 yrs with an MPE, no cracks. Love it!

m3ray · 11-15-2014, 01:46 PM

The bottom line is the MPE is hella overpriced for what you get. The difference in sound between the oem mod and MPE is marginal but the cost difference is significant. Add to that the chance (however likely or unlikely) of cracking, then I struggle to understand what is so appealing about this exhaust.

In the end OP its your decision.

tjsabec · 11-15-2014, 08:30 PM

Buy a used Akrapovic.. No cracking and titanium will last forever, so used is just as good as new.

CIFUM3 · 11-15-2014, 08:32 PM

I'm all about used on this platform due to the outrages prices on exhaust systems. The only thing I want new is a supercharger

Rupes · 11-15-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m3ray

The bottom line is the MPE is hella overpriced for what you get. The difference in sound between the oem mod and MPE is marginal but the cost difference is significant. Add to that the chance (however likely or unlikely) of cracking, then I struggle to understand what is so appealing about this exhaust.

In the end OP its your decision.

What's the final consensus on drone with the OEM mod? Some say there is some and others say no.

Disturbed · 11-15-2014, 09:51 PM

Used. Why buy new. As long as its in good shape a exhaust will last damn near forever if its good quality. Stainless for example can last 40 years or more. Alumnized steel can last 15 years.

Canuckistanian · 11-15-2014, 11:12 PM

Had my exhaust done with the OEM mod about a week and a half ago. Could not be happier with the sound. And for $370 taxes in, great deal. Nice to save $2000.

If there is any drone, I would attribute it to an improved exhaust note rather than a drone.

This is the way it should sound stock.

11-14-2014, 07:13 PM	#1
njdrive First Lieutenant 112 Rep 306 Posts Drives: e92 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	New exhaust vs Used I've decided I want the MPE. I've found the MPE brand new for $3100 and used between $2500 - $2800. I know with brand new there will be no unknown issues and I get to break in the exhaust. Used, I can save $300- $600. I like the idea of having more money on my side in the form of savings. With new, I get piece of mind. Piece of mind is priceless. What are your thoughts? Should I go used and save the money or buy new and pay with piece of mind? Any past experiences with used exhausts ? __________________ "…And the longer you deny yourself that M satisfaction the more unhappy your soul will be…. Get busy living or get busy dying and stop sweating the small stuff!" i001947
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11-14-2014, 07:15 PM	#2
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11-14-2014, 08:14 PM	#4
foam Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 206 Posts Drives: E92 M3 AW Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: WA iTrader: (1)	I've bought my exhaust used. Just find one with low mileage and save your money for other mods. It's going to get dirty under your car anyways
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11-14-2014, 08:14 PM	#5
m3ray Banned 104 Rep 701 Posts Drives: '09 e92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	OEM exhaust mod, and go on vacation with the savings. The MPE is known for cracking. You're welcome
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11-14-2014, 08:18 PM	#6
M3 Pilot Lieutenant 74 Rep 478 Posts Drives: 17' F80 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	New MPE is quiet. A used MPE with several thousand miles will sound louder. Personally I would buy new.
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11-14-2014, 08:54 PM	#10
Konig Private First Class 23 Rep 139 Posts Drives: _ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: _ iTrader: (0)	I've been considering the same question of new v used. For the M performance exhaust, there is a warranty period correct? Does the require installation by the dealer and all of that? I know I can do it myself and I'd prefer to save money on a used one, but if the thing is going to crack the warranty would be pretty key.
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11-14-2014, 08:57 PM	#11
Agent-GHQ Captain 111 Rep 837 Posts Drives: '13 AW ///M3 E92 MT Comp Pkg Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	I bought mine brand new since the price of a used one isn't that significantly different. As for as cracking goes that is very limited and those that cracked resulted in some form of abused and most likely did not use oem xpipe and opt for something that sounds obnoxious and uncharacteristic. I don't exoect the price of a new one to drop any time soon but then again that is just the rule of supply n demand.
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11-14-2014, 10:12 PM	#12
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11-14-2014, 11:55 PM	#13
STooK Lieutenant Colonel 746 Rep 1,974 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY iTrader: (6)	I would buy used but not at the prices you are finding them for. I've seen them go for $2k even in the forums here and I'd say that's a pretty good deal. I wouldn't worry about cracking either, it seems kind of blown out of proportion like every issue on the M3. Paying $3-4k for an exhaust doesn't make sense to me...hell neither does paying $2k which is the reason why I haven't pulled the trigger yet. On my 335i I bought my PE new for about $1500 and sold it for about half of what I paid. I would not buy a exhaust new unless I really have to...it doesn't really wear so getting a gently used one is the way to go. But on our M's, like someone suggested, I would look into getting the OEM exhaust mod. I think that's the route I'm going to take since it costs a fraction of an aftermarket exhaust while still sounding pretty damn good. __________________ 2013 BMW E92 ///M3 AW/BLK ZCP CF Roof 6 Speed - Perfection 2011 BMW E90 328i xDrive Space Grey/Black - Daily 2011 BMW E93 ///M3 MW/FR/BLK 6 Speed - Gone but not forgotten
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11-15-2014, 07:34 AM	#14
IB M Brigadier General 2923 Rep 4,369 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 6MT Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (1) Garage List 2017 BMW M3 [8.50] 2013 BMW M3 [10.00]	Let's hear from the guys that bought new and still have no cracking after 2 or more years. I'd like to do this mod but don't want to deal with cracking issue.
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11-15-2014, 12:38 PM	#16
Denk Brigadier General 1027 Rep 3,350 Posts Drives: 2021 X5M Join Date: May 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (2)	I prefer to buy new. Peace of mind, warranty. I've had 3 yrs with an MPE, no cracks. Love it!
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11-15-2014, 01:46 PM	#17
m3ray Banned 104 Rep 701 Posts Drives: '09 e92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	The bottom line is the MPE is hella overpriced for what you get. The difference in sound between the oem mod and MPE is marginal but the cost difference is significant. Add to that the chance (however likely or unlikely) of cracking, then I struggle to understand what is so appealing about this exhaust. In the end OP its your decision.
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11-15-2014, 08:30 PM	#18
tjsabec Captain 54 Rep 620 Posts Drives: 2008, e90, alpine white, 6mt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Morgantown, wv iTrader: (2)	Buy a used Akrapovic.. No cracking and titanium will last forever, so used is just as good as new.
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11-15-2014, 08:32 PM	#19
CIFUM3 Captain 104 Rep 996 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Goodyear iTrader: (0)	I'm all about used on this platform due to the outrages prices on exhaust systems. The only thing I want new is a supercharger __________________ Performance ESS 625 VT2 Supercharger - CAE Shifter - Revinora race+ axle back - Macht Schnell down pipes - SOSI X-pipe Looks M colors grill - CF trunk - Sapphire Blue Forgestars F14
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11-15-2014, 09:51 PM	#21
Disturbed First Lieutenant 27 Rep 380 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	Used. Why buy new. As long as its in good shape a exhaust will last damn near forever if its good quality. Stainless for example can last 40 years or more. Alumnized steel can last 15 years.
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11-15-2014, 11:12 PM	#22
Canuckistanian Ghost Rider 5 Rep 67 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 6MT AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Halifax, Canada iTrader: (0)	Had my exhaust done with the OEM mod about a week and a half ago. Could not be happier with the sound. And for $370 taxes in, great deal. Nice to save $2000. If there is any drone, I would attribute it to an improved exhaust note rather than a drone. This is the way it should sound stock.
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