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      03-06-2011, 03:47 PM   #89
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Originally Posted by swamp2 View Post
I'm sure you'll disagree...
I do but it really has nothing to do with whether one transmission is a more of a technological leap than another, which was the central point of your retort as I read it. When it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter if we are talking about the first transmission ever concevied or some new transmission built using alien technology or wizardry.

Instead, it is simply a matter of avoiding a falacy of misclasification.

Manual transmissions
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H-gated, clutched
Sequential manual (no clutch pedeal)
Sequential manual (with clutch pedal)

Automatic transmissions
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Planetary with torque converter
Planetary with wet clutch
Electrohydraulically clutched (what BMW improperly termed "SMG")
Belted CVT
Toroidal CVT

We could go on, I'm sure there are others. The important part here is that all transmission will fall into one group or the other. Or if you really want, make that automatic group the automanual group instead (it's more accurate after all, as I've conceded earlier).

What doesn't make sense - unless there is some ulterior motive, IMHO - is to insist that the DCT be set apart from all these others merely because its innovative.

If anything, one could argue CVT is the odd man out here, deserving its own category since these transmission don't really shift at all in the traditional sense (well some do, but this is done artificially).
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