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      05-12-2010, 06:27 PM   #102
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Originally Posted by blue2fire View Post
Yes all conquering as the Porsche is the most user friendly of the bunch by far considering the steering wheel does not need to be collapsed every time you get in it. Radical doesn't even have a roof.
About the Cup tires, you just dont know and are guessing. Most certainly "not on cup tires":
You weren't there when they did it by any chance, were you? Both of them are mules and both of them are manufacturer times. Porsche clearly quicker and cheaper. GT2 RS wins.
Nope, not all-conquering. You didn't include all of those qualifiers before you made your statement. Gumpert has a roof.

I don't have to be present on the 'Ring to know that GT2 RS comes with Cup tires. Take a look:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....gt2-face-7.jpg
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/20/s...-ring-running/
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1427/...6a7297ce_b.jpg

As for the LFA, this interview with the LFA's chief engineer is printed in Evo (Mar '10):

"Q: Were you tempted to use a 'cup' tyre for a faster Ring lap?
A: We are considering this."

You are sounding a lot like the ant-GTR fanboys who claimed they did their laps on racing slicks (even though the most scrutinized and photographed car in recent times since the Veyron has never been photographed with slicks on the 'Ring).

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Originally Posted by blue2fire View Post
Porsche clearly quicker and cheaper. GT2 RS wins.
Of course the Porsche should be faster. A turbocharged car with less weight, 70 more horses, and Cup tires should be faster, shouldn't it?
And cheaper too. It's based on a steel body shell shared with other cars, its engine isn't brand new, and it relies on forced induction for its power. And at the next Cars & Coffee, it'll be only a bit more exciting to look at than all of the other 997's.

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Inconsequentially to this conversation, the ZR-1 is barely a match for the GT2 in the straights, i wonder what this will do to the equation. I trust you dont even want to bench race the Viper after this
$110k ZR1 vs $194k GT2...and the ZR1 pulls away once the GT2 has lost its off-the-line advantage. Does that look like a car that is $80k faster to you?

Check this: Same-day test with a Porsche racer at the wheel of both cars. ZR1 a bit faster on track.
http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...s/the-big-guns
And the ZR1 is even on runflats (they're good runflats, but they're nevertheless heavier than they would otherwise be)....
Face it, guy. ZR1 offers way more performance for the money. Porsche is a big waste.
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