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Originally Posted by malter2.0
Swamp2,
Oh my god you are thick. Have you ever installed a set of springs on your car? Any car? If all springs provide basic function (can you tell me what function is that?), why don't you install a set of springs from buick park avenue and let us know how the car responds in twisties. Progressive springs not used often? Wow...funny because just about every aftermarket suspension for your car, which happens to be my car too, comes with progressive springs. I have them on my car right now in form of TEIN coilovers. Bilstein PSS9, H&R, TEIN SS coilovers...and few others all come with progressive springs. They feel funny? How is the word funny even used in describing a suspension feel?
Maybe you could write a nice email to technical support and headquarters of industry giants such as Bilstein, H&R, TEIN and tell them It is better to extract any desired non-linearity out of the suspension linkage design.
Leaf springs have their purpose ...in trucking industry. Chevy can make them out of carbon nanotubes for all I care.
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No need to start with the insults, really. It does not further your case nor your status.
Whether or not I have installed springs is irrelevant. Just FYI I have, I have replaced the entire main suspension components in my E36 M3 and did all the work myself.
I listed the basic functions of a spring in my initial post on the topic and again stick by those comments 100%.
What you are missing (again with the Buick or carbon nanotube analogy) is the difference between a typical implementation of a given design and a very different, much higher performance implementation. The devil is in the details and what you continue to miss is that a leaf spring can be light, strong and high performance, period. You are simply wrong here, accept it and move along with some new knowledge.
In talking about the lack of progressive springs in the market I was referring mostly to stock suspensions. And if you want a more scientific description of what I meant by "funny" I would say that non-linear springs in general cause a higher deceleration and deceleration derivative ("jerk") in the late stages of travel. What does this mean in real life - not as good of a feel as a linear spring. Sure there are advantages - namely the ability to deal with a larger load range in less travel but the advantages are accompanied by disadvantages as well.