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Originally Posted by radix
Agreed. This also means that you are not a gnostic atheist. gnostic means 'knowledge of'. atheism means 'no gods'. gnostic atheism means you have knowledge that there is no god, ergo it can be proven. Your statement above is consistent with agnostic atheism. That's reasonable IMO.
Forgive me, I skimmed it because I'm already familiar with its contents. To be fair, the author of that article gets it wrong as well. If you want the truth, it's that there are different degrees of atheism, as you alluded to earlier.
1. There are atheists who believe emphatically that there is no god, and that this belief can be proven. These are gnostic atheists.
2. There are atheists who simply lack belief in a god, but realize that god cannot be disproven. These would be agnostic atheists.
3. Then there are the agnostics, which simply state that knowledge of the subject is impossible.
I fall into the third category. In your previous post you said you were gnostic atheist, but this post makes it seem as though you fall into the second category.
Now, you're confusing the issue again. To posit is to assume as fact. This means you believe there is no god, and puts you back in the realm of gnostic atheism.
Your views are demonstrably inconsistent, even within this post. I'm afraid I still don't understand where you stand, but I'm beginning to suspect you actually are more agnostic than gnostic.
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Gnosticism refers to a state of knowledge.
So you have 4 types of people:
Agnostic Atheist:
I lack belief in a theistic god, however I do not know that one does not exist.
Gnostic Atheist:
I lack belief in a theistic god and I know that one does not exist.
Agnostic Theist:
I believe in a theistic god, however I do not have knowledge that this god exists.
Gnostic Theist:
I believe in a theistic god, and I have knowledge that this god exists.
There is no such thing as just being an agnostic. Usually when someone says they are "agnostic" they mean that they are an agnostic atheist.
I guess I used the word posit wrong, sorry about that. I just sort of meant 'I claim'.
Also, I thought I'd add...A good post by carve, if you're interested.
http://e90post.com/forums/showpost.p...&postcount=148