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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow
My CS was weighed with a full tank and was 3610 (I recall 3604 but whatever). So your spreadsheet wasn't corrected to half a tank for my car
Answering the topic, the big difference for me is that the E9X has a high specific output engine whereas the E39 does not, so I would never buy one. If I needed an M5 it would be an E60 6MT for sure.
The E39 is the first BMW I recognize and wanted to buy, so I like it and I'm sure it's an excellent car. Kind of the vs E46M discussions: I have a very clear preference but either option will still be great
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Your F80 was 3657 lbs with the nearly full tank. We corrected it to 3610 to bring it in line with the half tank level I correct all the cars to on that list:
... I don't think of the e39 M5 as an "M car", in the same way I don't think modern Turbo BMWs are actual M cars, either. The both don't have the high specific output, high revs low torque engine, they both don't have great steering feel, and they're both kind of too physically large to really throw around on a back road. The M5 serves a different purpose for us-- long distance cruiser/silly muscle car thing.
... but if my wife didn't love it, I'd sell it. But, she does, and it's reliable, comfortable, gives our fleet diversity, and is easy to work on, so no incentive to push her to get rid of it. I do completely agree the e60 M5 is the best driving generation... but it's too unreliable to be ownable (at least for me), the back seat space is significantly less than the e39 (important to me at 6'4), and the interior is garbage. All that said... I'm still thinking about importing an e61 M5 when they become legal to do so, and the kids outgrow the e46 M3 wagon (and immediately 6mt converting it... and put non M front seats in, as they're the reason the e60 M5 has such terrible back seat space-- the stock M5 front seats are super thick).