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      03-26-2008, 08:43 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by enigma View Post
Car companies quote many things. I seriously don't know how to have a debate with you when you flat out deny what most everyone else on this thread realizes. Seriously, its not just me thats tired of it.
I don't think, I know that the jerk has been engineered. I know for a fact that DSG does exactly what is say it does and more. The 0.2s improvement is the minimum and remember it's only a 6 speed box and not a 7 speed like the DCT.

Originally Posted by enigma View Post
The other way to dissapate energy is to overlap the clutch engagements. That is to start engaging the next gear WHILE the previous is still engaged.

The next gear clutch slips
Then you increase tension on the next gear and reduce it on the previous gear clutch. both clutchs are slipping but the car is still accelerating.

Eventually the next gear clutch if fully engaged and the previously one disengaged. Basically you are slipping the clutches to dissipate the energy. Lots of wear and tear on the clutchs but smooth aceleration. From what I have read this is how the veryon does it. Not something I would want in a car that gets driven a lot. You are also wasting the stored energy in the flywheel and turning it into heat in the clutchs instead of acceleration.
With the Veyron you are not talking about a piddly 400hp, the Veyron has close on 3 times that amount. If you reckon that the clutches will be damaged then I think you are misunderstand the technology.

Originally Posted by enigma View Post
One thing to remember. Audi is 4wd which would put extra stress on the clutches if they did it the BMW way since there would be less give or slip in the tires in case of overload.
I won't disagree that awd does put extra strain on clutches, especially on standing starts. But I know SMG has given more problems because of their S6 mode than anything else, I ask you how many launch control starts will an M5/6 be able it perform after another.