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      07-20-2012, 12:02 AM   #76
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Originally Posted by ScotchAndCigar View Post
Logic, can't you read? Every statement has an inverse, a converse, and a contrapositive. The statement "successful people had help" has the inverse "unsuccessful people didn't have help", the converse "people who don't have help are unsuccessful", and the contrapositive "people who had help are successful". The converse is always true. You are proposing the contrapositive which is not true in this case.
An example would be, "you need a computer to get onto the internet". The converse "no computer, no internet" is true. But the contrapositive "you'll get on the internet if you have a computer" is not true, because you need an ISP and a modem etc.

In short, you're transposing Obama's statement to come to a false conclusion.
The last time im going to point out that what i said is not what you are arguing. I said, "Thus you having help is the reason you are successful, all things being equal"-me

Three times in this thread ive gone back to previous quotes to prove whatever argument you have incorrect. Im not doing it again, perhaps you have the reading problem.