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      08-12-2013, 04:53 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Edward View Post
Are you buying a car for tuneability? Or for power/price value?

It sounds like that's all you care about. If so, yea man. Get the M4. Unless you can stretch and get a GT-R or something that's fast enough to satisfy you.

The M4 will probably come in around 3500 lbs or so....maybe a bit over 3400 dry weight. I'd be super pleased if it was lighter. We already know it sounds weaker than the S65 and there's absolutely nothing that can fix that.

It will be faster in probably every measurable way and way more driveable with that tq down low. It won't be high revving if high revving means at least hitting 8k.

With $1500 to tune it, you will likely be able to take it from 430-450 stock to perhaps 520 hp. Probably get it fast enough to walk away from a stock M5/6 in straight line while also taking it down by a larger margin on a road course.

The motor is not interesting to me, however the aluminum bodywork and other weight saving tech + the improved M chassis will be nice.

If it were me I'd be perfectly happy with them slapping the S65 exactly as it is into the M4, while simply working on weight savings. M needs to go on a serious diet.
For me it’s not about the ability to tune, however by judging on the number of supercharged M3 on the forum it just might be about the ability to tune for many! For me it’s about getting the best looking bang for the buck, so if I can get an M4 for $75,000 & spend $1,500 on a tune and match the performance or maybe even out perform a car costing upwards of $130,000 than that’s a smart investment. Plus I love BMW, so I guess I’m rooting for the M to make a come back!

However, I do agree on the M going on a serious diet!
2009 E92 M3 DCT: BPM tune + DCT tune & Servotronic | Velos Solo VII 19x 8.5, 19x11 | Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35/19 front 295/30/19 rear | M Performance Exhaust | BCM Air Intake Filter