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      02-22-2008, 04:56 PM   #165
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Originally Posted by gbb357 View Post
So why don't you explain to us Swampy, how is it possible for the M3 that weights 500lbs heavier, makes 22hp less, and 124 lbs-ft less torque than the Vette, and yet it can be as quick as the Vette if not quicker. These are enough evidence (not proof) for me of "massively under-rating". Please don't tell me because it can rev faster and higher than the Vette. So why don't you prove me wrong, i have no problem admitting when i'm wrong and when i'm rightfully and respectfully corrected. Again, show me proof.

Basically the same attributes that Bruce had pointed out before that should give the Vette a decent advantage.
1) LS3 is slightly lighter in weight
2) LS3 is similar in overall size but not as tall, lending itself to a lower center of gravity in pretty much any car
3) LS3 makes about five percent more power (22 HP)
4) LS3 makes about 45% more torque (124 pound feet)
5) LS3 appears to have better bsfc numbers
Things are explained and evidence provided for you time and time again. As well, opinion and theories are revised over time. What do you do - COMPLETELY ignore both. Some hints as mentioned before: drivetrain efficiency and overall efficiency, ability of chassis to provide and maximize traction, gearing, etc. Some reasons for sure some likely/speculative. Not to mention simulation... It is time for you to learn a bit on your own.

Also with respect to your nice little list above this seems pretty much requoted direectly from Bruce's list here in this very thread. Time for some of your own thoughts and synthesis.
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