[RickFLM4]

I think the only way ND gets in is to go undefeated. If they lose and have no title game I think they are out with no conference championship game. Their schedule has several decent to good teams, but overall is not great. It looked better on paper at the start of the year. Stanford, USC, FSU and Va Tech are all disappointed in their seasons. Michigan is a great win. That said, I could see them losing at NW or vs. Syracuse. Maybe even FSU or USC can get their shit together enough to beat them but I doubt it.

If they lose it gets more interesting. I agree it doesn’t look good for PAC 12. I think someone from Big 10 or Big 12 gets in ahead of a one-loss ND. Of course odd things happen at this time of year. All 4 top teams could lose again. Conference favorites could lose badly, etc.