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Originally Posted by regular guy
Well then I'll ask you the same question I asked him. Do you have any data to back that up? And can you describe what those optimizations might be (with data to prove it)? I hope so or else your other dings for people who lack evidence rings hollow.
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One really needs some foundational knowledge and to accept what is painfully obvious.
Anytime anyone demands proof positive about things that happen behind closed doors at a fairly secretive organization it is a discussion ender. We just aren't given that kind of access and I think you know that.
Try a google search for "SAE engine oil system optimization" (SAE I think you know if the largest publisher of automotive research and engineering papers). Want to guess how many hits you find - 916,000. Now please, tell me again you don't think BMW M did ANY of this type of work with their highest reving and highest tech NA engine ever... If you think that it's really time for a reality check.
If you don't believe that any part of the entire oil lubrication system had some theoretical (i.e. numerical, i.e. CFD), system based engineering (simplified differential equation based) or plain old trial and error experimental optimization, then we probably really can't have much more of a discussion on this point.
Believing otherwise seems typical for you and some in your camp on the overall state of automotive engineering and what actually goes into designing an engine let alone a whole vehicle.
How about crash testing, can you find proof positive from BMW that they did crash testing on the M3? It's trivial to find the 3rd party private/governmental testing but not the factory testing. Wouldn't it be quite foolish to believe that they didn't also do a significant amount of engineering optimization of many parts of the crash system of the car. The only answer is yes.
Can I prove it right now, nope. Would I bet $100k on it, instantly.