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      11-01-2009, 02:55 AM   #26

Drives: M3
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Washington, DC

iTrader: (2)

Originally Posted by DVDA View Post
I was originally going to write this in a PM but OP never PMed so please feel free to delete this if offer break downs are not allowed in replies….

I understand the MSRP is 71K but that does not mean it is what you paid or what the car is worth....

Invoice Price Lists

Base USA 52,900
Training 180
DCT 2,640
Prem 1,800
Tech 2,960
Destination 825
Gas Tax 1,300
= 63,905 (not including other fees, taxes etc I know)

Now everyone knows a car lose value the moment you drive off the lot (up to 20% in the first year)

Therefore your offer of 61,500 pretty fair (you are saving buyer about 2K and they dont have to pay dealer fees but still have to pay taxes). But then again there are still 2009s on the lot and if you pay cash you get $4,500 off so for your car it would be 59,405

Now since the actual value of the car excludes Training, Destination and Gas Tax the real cost of the car is

Base USA 52,900
DCT 2,640
Prem 1,800
Tech 2960
= 60,300

So the car itself is worth 60.3K minus depreciation. Now lets say the car lost 5% on depreciation (more realistically 10%) that is 3,015. So roughly 57K….

I will offer you 55K Cash for the car if it has CF Roof, and 52.5K if it has Sunroof (Buyer's Market). Let me know, also members if you don’t agree with my break down feel free to comment, I do not mind the feedback/criticism
1) DVDA, you could have PM'd me if you had a problem with the pricing, no-one stopped you from doing that. Either way, I can't take your offer.

2) If you are going to compare apples to apples, at least calculate the invoice of my car RIGHT. That's where the problem is. Do you even know what options this car has? I am the seller, I have to be nice, so here you go:

Here is the INVOICE price break down for you. All taken from wholesale pricing sheet from Bmw.

Base USA 53,220 (Effective March 1, 2009)
DCT 2,640
PREM 1,820
TECH 2,960
IPOD & USB 365

All this comes to: 63,510 which DOESNT include the Destination, Guzzler, Training.

ADD destination, guzzler and training.. throw in the floor mats.. we are at 66,000 plus tax, tags and fees... this is the INVOICE pricing, the invoice pricing you posted didn't apply to my car. You were missing options.

In addition, the FULL clear bra was applied the same day I took the delivery (more details below).. if you don't want it, not a problem, you don't have to get it.. I will take $1000 off and eat the cost.

That should end the discussion about the price.

As a side note, this car was not a dealer demo. It was ordered by me in July '09 and delivered by mid-August '09 with 4 miles making sure no-one took the car above 4-5k RPM. I didn't even let the dealer wash the car before the delivery.. Custom Ventureshield clear bra was applied at around 20 miles by the BEST installer (Entire hood, entire fenders, headlights, bumper, basically everything until the doors are covered as well as lots of custom pieces around the car such as a-pillars, rocker panels, door handles, trunk loading area, etc) Lot of m3 owners care about their car, I think this is one of the most important option/mod on the car.

Best Regards,

PS: As far as the pictures go, I will be posting them in a day or so. I apologize for the delay.

Last edited by memo; 11-01-2009 at 08:22 AM.