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      01-23-2021, 10:14 PM   #84
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All I can say is that my aero gained me about 2 seconds at a twisty, slightly sub-2min track. This was with the same tires, but different damper settings.

The car weighed about 3700 with me in it and a full tank. That is quite substantial in my opinion. The same downforce on a lighter car with the same power to weight (and close drag) would no doubt be more effective though.
How fast are the twisties?

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Bartledoo , I was watching your video, there are no telemetry on your video, but it does not look like you are going fast enough in the turns to generate enough down force for a 3700Lbs car. Is it possible you are just a better driver over time?
Seems like you're speaking in absolutes when the videos you're referencing aren't. There are plenty of very fast drivers/cars on this forum that are >3k lbs with substantial aero that unequivocally produce greater grip at the tires as a combination of mechanical and aero. At high speeds and even low speeds.
Yes, there are very fast drivers on this forum, but they cannot defy physics. If you are not going over 100mph in a large diameter turn, you are not fast because of aerodynamics. You are fast because of many other factors.

I am over simplifying, but an average E92 M3 @ 3700 Lbs is not dropping 2sec a laptop doing 40-80 mph i turns because of large wing attached to the trunk.

But what do I know, i ran 19" rims.
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