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      08-18-2008, 04:03 PM   #55
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No my comments are specific to Quattro with the full time AWD. The newer ones with torque vectoring with complete 100% torque shift front to back are good so long as it doesn't add too much weight. Look at the torque to the wheel differences between the M3 and the RS4.....only difference is the drivetrain losses. This is backed by observations where the RS4 gets spanked.
For a start, the new Quattro even the one with torque vectoring will still only shift the power 25% either direction, meaning 85% max to the rear and 65% max to the front. Next, you can not base all of your opinions on M5Board events, there is other evidence which state that Quattro cars accelerate equally as well as their rwd rivals when power is the same, the only thing that bares relevance is weight when all other things are equal.

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In the case of the GTR, they have been able to reduce drivetrain parasitic losses to a minimum.
Wrong, the GTR uses two drive shafts, one to the rear gearbox and transfer box and another moving forward to drive the front wheels, that means more transmission lose than what Quattro produces.

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Innovations like the off-throttle torque vector is great like the system on the X6 but we have not seen this in a performance car.
The system will be seen in the S4 according to some well chosen sites, if it shows there you may get your chance to either be impressed or reject it's merits because it's connected to that awful Quattro system you dearly hate.
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