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Originally Posted by 14_deltaM3
Yea, I kind of agree. If torque shove and ultimate mid range is what’s wanted, the new Ms (or even a 340) are where it’s at. But it’s also kind of antithetical to M’s original mission to be expecting that kind of power delivery.
I think people’s expectations in view of the turbo revolution we’ve recently seen is kind of out of whack. It’s not been a historical expectation that cars deliver 90% or greater torque immediately off idle. Revving is fun, you know...
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Asking for a little more midrange is not all all 'off idle'.
Further, the irony of your comments is that the S55 makes peak torque at just over 3k while the S65 makes peak torque at 3.9k..... So they are actually quite similar in that regard. In addition, the S55 has a very soft bottom with relatively little torque below 3k while the S65 has one of the broadest torque curves of any motor ever designed, making nearly peak torque all the way across the tach, contrary to your insinuation that M cars are supposed to be peaky, and, that turbo automatically means huge torque off idle.
In other words, pretty much your entire post is off base except that revving is fun