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      12-15-2021, 11:42 PM   #2945
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it's a pretty cool setup



This is a good review of it with wind where the caveat with the wind blowing away the gas.

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I've seen a couple other demo videos of this, and without wind present, it was just as quick as a small dry chem ABC extinguisher.

This video showed an obvious flaw, because the Element extinguishing agent is essentially a gas, wind is capable of blowing away the gas.

The captain had to lean over the flammable liquid, which nobody should ever do, even a firefighter wearing full PPE.

All that being said, the small Element has 50 seconds of extinguishing agent discharge time, compared to about 15 seconds for a dry chem. 50 seconds is more than enough time to overcome a light wind.

With heavy winds, it's hard to put out anything, even with a fire hose.

I literally just learned about this extinguisher about 30 minutes ago. I'm buying 4 of them today, for all the cars at home.

I'm a retired firefighter, and I'm a pain in the ass pragmatic sceptic for anything new. Prove it to me, and after my initial resistance to change, I'm an advocate.
A very cool package.
I'm not fireman, but that wasn't a confidence inspiring video. Seems like a rad solution for something small at home that's already contained.

But for a race car? Suppression is to give you time to get out not save the car. This doesn't seem like it could do either.
With 50 seconds of gas, I think it can in a contained area like a cockpit.
Clearly no worse and arguably better than a hand held (which is what's in my car), but idk.

High quality Novec system is $800 - $1400. Doesn't weigh much and could actually save your life. What if you're unconscious? Or broke your thumbs on the steering wheel, or something else prevents you from striking the striker?

I know it means nothing, but I'm now changing my mind. I think proper suppression is the right choice.
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