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      03-09-2021, 08:05 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by Green-Eggs View Post
You were better when you stuck to stating your opinion; you are entitled to that. However, when you go off script and start talking about people's business models, singling out one vendor and not others who charge the same (or more), then it's no longer about stating your opinion --it's about promoting your agenda. You were asked multiple questions, but instead of providing meaningful answers yourself, you changed your objection and moved the goal post with each new response. Now you want to complain when I gave you a sarcastic response. LOL.

I'm in a position to know much more about the profit margins of ACL than you are to know about any bearing vendor like ACL or BE. Knowing what I do about ACL and the regular solicitations BE gets to have bearings made abroad, I'm 60-40 in saying that ACL has higher profit margins than BE.

If you don’t feel that BE's parts/service are worth it, when you feel the need to voice that only about BE brand and not others, then it does not help the community. Many support and appreciate what BE offers. BE's price is essentially the same as another competitor who do not offer the same service. BE becomes a bargain when you look at it like that. Also, BMW 702/703 bearings are more expensive which means once again BE's service could carry a bigger premium. Based on my position as owner of Auto Talent, I think more people still install OEM + WPC than aftermarket bearings. In other words, they install the highest priced choice of all, yet you're conspicuously silent about that. The people really gouging the market are those who sell mixed ACL bearings for an extra $100 per set by doing nothing more than changing the packaging. That's another topic you're conspicuously silent about.

So let's be clear: if you asked a question that went unanswered, then I missed it. You did talk about things that you had no knowledge like business models, profit margins and value propositions. Things like value propositions aren't yours to decide on behalf of the consumers, that decision belongs to the consumers themselves. Things like business models and profit margins are way outside of your level of knowledge. So my advise is stick to what you know. State your opinion, you're entitled to it. Go buy the cheapest you can find and sleep good at night knowing that you advised others to save 9% on their bearing jobs by going with the cheapest solution they could find that had no quality control behind it.
I have absolutely zero agenda. I have obviously struck a nerve, because instead of addressing the questions, you are attacking the questioner. Clearly, you have no interest in actually discussing your profit margin, admitting it is not the $30 you claimed earlier, or admitting you have sold over 10,000 sets of bearings and recouped any R&D long ago. You should just be direct and honest and state that you charge 4 times what the competition is charging and that you think that is fine because you have a good product and people are willing to pay for it. Attacking people who raise questions and raising questions about the profit margins of others is just avoidance.

You are putting words in my mouth that you know never came out if it. I have never suggested to anyone that they save 9% on rod bearings. I did say that your bearings are 400% the price of the competitions bearings and that they are not 400% better. It is unfortunate you are acting this way. Until now, you have been pretty open and up front, but clearly discussion about your prices and profit margins is getting you wound up tight enough to lash out at people.
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